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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Mar-2012 at 6:19pm
I know we're getting an episode to explain WHY Regina is the way she is...so I'm excited for that. I've felt the moments of humanity we've seen in the Evil Queen has made her interesting but they are so far and in between...

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  Quote EvilMonkeyPope Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Mar-2012 at 7:44pm
I want an episode about the Dwarf Queen that lays all those drawrven eggs.
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  Quote Gremlin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Mar-2012 at 11:07pm
There are no female dwarves....so god only knows that lays the eggs...
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  Quote Kipe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 6:49pm
So. Wow.

Ruby is The Wolf. That's pretty awesome.

"I'll just screw it up. I mean I'll screw it up with flair but..."

At that line my boyfriend and I looked at each other and I was all, "NOW you see why she's my favourite character? Slutty, impulsive, flashy clumsy werewolf badass girl? Check check check check check check check.

I'm looking forward to a possible Fairy world battle with Snow, Red, Jiminey, and the Dwarves vs. The Queen.


Rumplestilskin used James and Snow's hair to bottle love. Love is the most powerful magic in the world. Rumplestilskin maintaining the most power relies on Snow and Charming's love.

We finally have Gold's motive for taking on Regina.

Things are lining up nicely.

The Writer is definitely important and allied with Henry now. Both Mary Margret and Emma are making separate deals/alliances with Gold. Emma's finally on to Regina. Mary Margret has the All-Key and is a fugitive in both worlds. Gold inspecting the genie lamp was rather ominous. Jiminey can restore memories of the Fariy World via hypnosis alongside Emma's apparent ability to restore memories via intimate contact. Regina is back to claiming hearts.

This show just got so much better.
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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 6:59pm
I agree the past two episodes have kicked things back into gear. I love Ruby! I loved last week when she took off the cloak and just got all badass on everyone. They need to make her a series regular!

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  Quote Gremlin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 7:14pm
The past two episodes were spot on. The Red Riding Hood episode was great and there were some great twists in it. Instead of the old, helpless Granny we got a crossbow wielding battleaxe. And the misleads that the doctor was the wolf was great when the reveal came that Red was the wolf. And then in the following episode she helped Charming by becoming the wolf.
I too hope she becomes a series regular. This season obviously had a story arc planned from the beginning and none of thw writers knew how the characters would be recieved. In season 2 I would like Red to become more of a central character. In fact if this show is to survive for many more seasons to come it needs to boost some of the supporting cast into regular cast. I have to say with the Huntsman/Sheriff gone there is a distinct lack of decent men around. There's Charming and Gold and that's it. The Writer is a question mark and the rest like Jimminy and Grumpy don't cut it.

How about intorducing Robin Hood into the mix. He would be a great character to modernise...especially since the character is so easy to add a dark take on.

The second episode really had me liking both Mary Margart and Snow White. Snow was badass and the mirroring of the real world and fairytale world throughout the episode really worked well here. Plus Charming is only the second character to remember the fairytale world. I really hope that at least one character fully remembers the world by the end of this season.
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  Quote Kipe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 7:26pm
I'm wondering if Jiminey (forgot his rw counterpart's name) will hypnotize Mary Margret to see what she remembers. That would be a good twist.

I also want Red to be a series regular. I'm hopeful because they've been building her up the last few episodes.
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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 7:42pm
I'm pretty sure they can't get Robin Hood for legal reasons.

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  Quote Gremlin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 7:53pm
Really?
They are using the Alice in Wonderland characters and they must have copyright stuff to contend with. Whoever makes this must have strong links to Disney given the amount of Disney characters and stories are used.
Oh well. If they can't use him they should come up with some other male characters to use.
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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 7:56pm
Originally posted by Gremlin

Really?They are using the Alice in Wonderland characters and they must have copyright stuff to contend with. Whoever makes this must have strong links to Disney given the amount of Disney characters and stories are used.Oh well. If they can't use him they should come up with some other male characters to use.


It's on ABC, which is owned by Disney.

While Alice in Wonderland might be under the Disney Umbrella, I'm not sure Robin Hood is. From what I've heard Graham was supposed to be Robin Hood, but for legal reasons that was scarped.

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  Quote Gremlin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 8:14pm
Ahhh Ok that makes sense. Shame.
Well Disney had that Robin Hood cartoon back in the 70's.

In fact knowing Disney makes this opens up a lot of doors. Pretty much any Disney character is fair game although I can see some liberties being taken with the anthropomorphised animals.
Plus you can bet we are going to see the likes of Sleeping Beauty, Rapunzel and the Little Mermaid sooner or later.
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  Quote Blackcyclops Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 8:19pm
Ummm what legal issues? Robin Hood is a public domain character like Snow White or Goldilocks.
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  Quote Kipe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 8:58pm
Sleeping Beauty has already been referenced. The Evil Queen mentioned having borrowed a sleeping spell from Maleficent when she stole the curse that she used on the world/town. I don't think Maleficent has a real world counterpart though due to the Evil Queen killing her for the curse.

The Gingerbread Witch is also dead. That leaves the Sea Hag as another possible witch appearance. Though I'm wondering if Regina killed off all the other sorceresses before performing the curse. She doesn't like competition and she did off the Gingerbread Witch and Maleficent.
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  Quote Gremlin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 9:29pm
Maleficent isn't dead. Th Evil Queen just defeated her and then took what she wanted so hopefully she will make an appearence in Season 2.
I would like to see some other villains crop up like the Snow White's Ugly Stepsisters, Captain Hook, The Pied Piper and the Snow Queen.
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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 9:56pm
Originally posted by Blackcyclops

Ummm what legal issues? Robin Hood is a public domain character like Snow White or Goldilocks.


Apparently not:

http://insidepulse.com/2011/12/06/once-upon-a-time-spoilers-is-the-sheriff-robin-hood/


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  Quote marhawkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 10:08pm
That link doesn't really say why... And besides, Robin Hood stories have been around since the 13th century... how could anyone claim copyright?

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  Quote Blackcyclops Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 11:10pm
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That link doesn't really say why... And besides, Robin Hood stories have been around since the 13th century... how could anyone claim copyright?


Exactly ...and Robin Hood films, TV shows and comics have been done by every which studio and company. Didnt Robin Hood appear in Fables? And they purposively obly use public donain characters.
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  Quote Kipe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 11:10pm
I want to know who the writer is. Is he Grimm? Is he the reincarnation of Henry (the heart of the spell) and Emma's Henry really is JUST Snow White and Charming's grandson? His name could be a red herring?

While I still think David is a jerk, (over and over again) I'm loving Charming, Snow, and Mary Margret. I was hoping Katherine was just gone and not dead. I feel kinda bad for her.

Regina has broken Mary and David again. I swear, David/Charming and Mary/Snow have THE most complicated relationship EVER for a series in its first season.



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  Quote Gremlin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 11:38pm
I think that's a good thing. If they played it too fairytaley then people would get bored. This way we KNOW they end up together so there isn't that whole cliche will-they-or-won't-they with Charming and Snow. But the journey is drawn out. I will admit though that they REALLY need to get some more main characters and stop bashing us over the head with Snow/Charming/Mary/David.

I really wonder who killed Kathryn and why. To cut out her heart and bury it is something really really dark. And then to frame MM.....well that bit's a bit more obvious. The obvious candidate is Regina but I don't see her doing the deed herself. I think the doctor is involved. We don't know his fairytale counterpart and he has the skills to remove someones heart (albiet anyone does really but story-wise it would make sense).

Edit: Out of curiosity I did a quick internet search for fairytale/disney doctors (it's irritating how many Doctor Who pages come up). Not notable ones but there are a few....

Three Army Surgeons (Grimm Fairytale)- Three surgeons who cut out body organs to impress an innkeeper.
Doctor Knowall  (Grimm Fairytale)- A man who revered a doctor so made himself look like one and ended up solving a robbery for a nobleman.
Doctor Facillier (Disney - Princess and the Frog) - A witch doctor and a smooth talking all-round bad guy.

The best guess is he could be Doctor Facilier.


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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 2:54pm
Well how do we know the Queen didn't just take out Abigail's heart like she did Graham's? Meaning Katherine is alive but she is like Graham and has no heart.

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  Quote Kipe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 6:26pm
But those hearts were still alive. Graham's heart was still beating when Regina pulled it out of her box, wasn't it?

Somehow I'd think Emma and Ruby would notice if the heart she found were still beating.
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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 6:58pm
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But those hearts were still alive. Graham's heart was still beating when Regina pulled it out of her box, wasn't it?

Somehow I'd think Emma and Ruby would notice if the heart she found were still beating.


Oh true, I didn't think about that.

Well Katheryn is in trouble now haha

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  Quote Scififilmnerd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Mar-2012 at 12:30am
The show has only just started here in Denmark. We have seen 4 episodes so far, and I kinda like it. Sounds like it's only going to get better. Looking forward to that. Smile
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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Mar-2012 at 7:06pm
Once Upon A Time has been renewed! Or is very close too! Yay!

http://tvline.com/2012/03/23/greys-anatomy-castle-revenge-once-upon-a-time-renewed/

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Wow that episode was a gamechanger! It opened the show up for sooo much.

First:
1. There are multiple worlds....Not just fantasy realm/real world...
2. The Queen of Hearts...She wants the hat...DId she get it? The Mad Hatter had to get back to the fantasy realm to be transported to the real world right? Unless Wonderland got transported too? If not could the Queen of Hearts be a future villain?
3. Emma almost knows! She at least suspects now. She isn't as shut off. I expect we'll see her try to rationalize what's going on in the next couple of episodes. Like "Is he the writer of the book" "Did he do that to himself to be like the book?" But this really gives me hope that we'll Emma believe by the end of the season.
4. More cracks in the world...Mary getting all kick ass and did the magic hat work? Did Jefferson get transported?

While this wasn't my favorite episode the season(it was still very good), it felt like it set up a lot for the future.

I can't wait for next week to learn more about the Queen. I love when we get tidbits when she isn't a one dimensional evil witch..




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  Quote Gremlin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Mar-2012 at 12:24pm
This was an awesome episode. Finally another character who knows the fairytale world is real and what's more Emma is on the verge of believing too. Tha Mad Hatter story was great and really sad. The magical hat opens up the possibilty for so many more worlds. All those different doors with all those worlds is a great idea and should give lots of storylines in the future.
I hope we see more of the Mad Hatter in the future. Plus the Queen of Hearts....who is she? She kind of dresses like Lady Gaga......I wonder if that's her real-world counterpact.

This series has kicked it up a notch now we are getting to the end of the season. Plus with a renewal pretty much in the bag I hope the writers are planning for future seasons now. Certainly the possibility of "other worlds" opens up a lot of different threats from different realities.

I wonder if we will see any Disney Pixar creations like Toy Story, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Monsters inc and Up. Some of them may be hard to do but a few easter eggs would be cool. I predict a Little Mermaid episode coming up which would be easy to incorporate Nemo into.

Edit: After reading some online reviews I went back and looked at the scene with all the doors. And lo-an-behold there is a very Wizard-of-Oz looking door with green drapes and an O-Z symbol on it.
There is a red door and kind of has an oriental feel to it....Mulan?
Some have said they can spot a Narnia style door but I don't really see one. I wonder if the writers made all the various doors with worlds in mind of just made random styls and then they will fudge it later. There is a bright pink door, a bright blue one and one with arabic writing on (Alladin?)>


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