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Topic: New claremont interview Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 4:08am |
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Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 8:39am |
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Nothing much really. He talks about the current state of Marvel but doesn't really give an opinion. The only interesting answer is the very last question where he speaks, as every creator must these days, on the distribution problems of comics.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 2:27pm |
I got a certain vibe from it that he is not going to return writing comics..... after all, he cleared out the old stuff in the basement (original scripts, pages, used and unused ideas). Seems like a clean cut to me. I guess that's a good thing. The man has a certain writing style, that I personally used to like, but it doesn't fit very well in a shared universe, where other writers get to play in the sandbox too. That's why Marvel had him on stand-alone books recently, where he din't have to coordinate his stories with other writers. Still, not all of it worked. X-Treme X-Men was okay, but still too closely attached to the other books. X-Men Forever & X-Men The End had their moments, but were both a bit too long. And Claremont's work on Exiles was.... lacking - for me. That's a book that required a writer to put the theme and the concept before his own style and personal favorites. When the cast became Sage, Sabretooth, Psylocke, Rogue, Kitty and (a surprisngly interesting male)Mystique, he lost it for me. That's when it became the Claremont show, rather than "Exiles", and the term applies to various different incarnations of the team and the book. Anyway, as there is no way EVER that Claremont could live up to his past galore, I guess it's good for him to quit comics and start something different altogether while he still has the chance.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 2:37pm |
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The thing that I found most interesting was the idea of him working overseas, in the European market, and I'm actually interested in learning more about Wanderers. While I think Claremont's lost his edge in regards to the X-Men, I don't think I've read anything modern he's done otherwise. I wish I could try the book out, as I love fantasy stories.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 4:40pm |
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I think Claremont would be well served to be like Stan Lee. Get away from Marvel for a while. Maybe start your own comics company, write new comics with new characters. Get away from your legacy. He can still go cons and do publicity stuff for Marvel.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 6:01pm |
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He actually sounded pretty insightful but the whole "Nothing on the stands interests me," was unnecessary. I know what he meant but he could've said it in a different way.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 6:09pm |
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Honestly I think Claremont is at a place creatively where he needs to start his own thing. Build his own universe with new characters. He doesn't want to be just another cog in the machine, so be the machine itself. Besides a small part of me still loves his older runs so much I can't believe he has nothing left to give to the greater literary industry.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 6:12pm |
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I think if Claremont wanted to create his own stuff he would have by now. Heck people much younger than him have done it and even Stan Lee has. I think perhaps Claremont might feel like he just doesn't want to do this anymore, at least not in his heart of hearts.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 6:24pm |
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That has to have been the most boring interview I've ever read.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 9:27pm |
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Yeah the "Nothing on the stands interests me" came off the same way to me. Just sounded sort of...I dunno arrogant. Especially when one knows how Claremont was not very good at wanting to work within the bounds of others like Peter brought up. Probabably would have come off better to just use the tried and true "Sadly I don't have time to read comics" that many creators that are out of the game or even sometimes still in the game say.
I agree, sounds like Claremont is just making a clean cut from comics now. And like BC said if he really had ideas for other characters of his own he probably would have done it by now. I think in his heart its mostly "X-Men or bust" from spending all that time with them but with it not being just Claremont running the whole X side of things on his own, it just doesn't work for him anymore. Cause that Exiles was just like Peter said, the Claremont show. And one can see the characters that he uses on a quite regular basis.
Sad that he didn't go out when on top, and had to mar memories with these last few years lol. They weren't awful awful, but they weren't great by any stretch of the definition.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 9:46pm |
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I dunno, personally, I like his frankness when he says that nothing on the stands interests him. Don't get me wrong, I do feel like it's arrogance talking - they aren't HIS comics, so why be interested? - but at least he's honest about it.
I've recently discovered that one of the previous writers of Sonic the Hedgehog has a similar mentality regarding that ongoing series. Everything he DIDN'T write doesn't matter and he considers anything past him to have not-have-happened.
It's arrogance, but it happens. : /
In anything to me, it shows how far out of touch with the modern audience Claremont is. And maybe that's a good thing, as he can appeal to an audience OUTSIDE of comic books. Within the logic of appealing to us, the fanbase, he's clearly out of sync.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 11:27pm |
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That is a good point. It does indeed show just how out of touch he really is. None of it interests him cause its not his while most fans seem to be the most interested they have been in years in the X-Line right now. Where we now regularly enjoy and want different series with different voices. There are very few cases left of a single voice guiding numerous titles in a line. About the only one off the top of my head is Bendis with two and soon three Avengers books, but its not the same as Claremont's time as There are a few other books written by other writers in that Avengers umbrella so its not just the Bendis show or such.
I'd be interested in checking out his prose work just to see if perhaps it might read a little better than recent comics.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 11:32pm |
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I remember trying to read one of his Willow books back when I was much, much younger I and just couldn't follow it. I dunno whether it was because a) I'm not that big a fan of Willow, b) it was poorly written or c) I was just a dumb kid.
All are possible. : /
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Posted: 03-Jan-2012 at 11:36pm |
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It must be hard for him really. At one point he was the XMen franchise. He wrote some of the most iconic storylines and created some of the best loved characters. And now look.....every title he writes gets cancelled due to poor readership. He's gone from king to beggar. OK I know he is still widely loved and he is still writing but reading this interview and others like it I think he should just draw a line under the XMen and move on.....and by the sounds of it he has. From what he says he doesn't read many of the current comics.....which I am not sure is a good thing or bad thing.
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Posted: 04-Jan-2012 at 2:01am |
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That's a good analogy there in a way with the image of a 'King'. Claremont was the top of the pack there for such a long time, even with others helping with plotting and such. It is seen as the Claremont time by most people. Yet when the time came that the people decided a Democracy for the line would be better with equality for all and allowing others to play with the toys, Claremont never left the "King" mindset. As is evident by pretty much all his writing from his first time leaving forward when it comes to X-Men. The man blatantly disregards things that happen in other titles to make the characters the version he wants or created, because he still sees it as his kingdom and these others are just usurpers to the crown.
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Posted: 07-Jan-2012 at 12:37am |
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There are quite a few creators who aren't interested in the vast majority of what's being published right now, and they are vocal about it. Most of these people work on creator-owned projects via Image, Dark Horse, or some other third party publisher (you know, where creative risks are taken). Claremont's soap opera formula took the top of the comic book mountain for a long time, and with the help of John Byrne cemented a canon of characters. He doesn't have the commercial rights to these characters, and he didn't create them, but he took X-Men from a canceled also-ran silver age rag to the dominant intellectual property of Marvel. Almost every writer on an X title since has more or less coasted on his reputation, whether or not their run was good. He's also a fan of comics. Why should he lie and say he doesn't have time to read anything if he feels like there aren't a whole lot of good books out there? Ugh.
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Posted: 08-Jan-2012 at 7:54am |
"Over in the X-Men line of titles, I see that there seems to be a structural redefinition of the canon that will substantially change readers’ relationships with the characters, in the sense that some characters who you felt were on one side of the line in behavior now seem to be turning into anti-heroes, as I understand."
I found this quote from the interview to be the most interesting.
It seems Claremont has this sort of nostalgic longing for the way the X-verse used to be but I wonder if it's because he genuinely dislikes the direction the X-Men have been going in for the past decade or because he just misses the days when he was on top. I think maybe a bit of both.
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Posted: 08-Jan-2012 at 4:26pm |
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I would say both, and I would say his dislike of the direction of the X-Line stems from his nostalgia. Cause a lot of his post 00 stuff would return to his 'feeling' for the past or ignore things that happened to a character in another book before he had picked them up so that the character would jive more towards what the character had been like with him. If I recall he had been on record not being happy with things that had been done with some like Kitty over the years. Heck his last endeavor before leaving comics was a series that went back to recapture and move forward his work from the early 90's lol.
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Posted: 14-Jan-2012 at 7:00am |
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I've bashed Claremont many a time over the years, but his honesty is kind of refreshing. I can't help but wish him luck on his future endeavors.
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Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 3:30pm |
I miss Claremont writing X-Men related comics. I may have been the only one, but I enjoyed X-Men Forever.
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