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Tyler5618
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Posted: 19-Jan-2012 at 5:16pm |
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Hmm... thought Longshot's probability altering and psychometry were mutations... I stand corrected.
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Posted: 20-Jan-2012 at 5:19pm |
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Ok, when I write "Mutants" you know I mean Homo Superior (as in mutant human) and not other species mutants like aliens and artificially created being.
So let's leave Broo, Warlock, Shatterstar and Longshot listed as Non-Mutants, at least until proven differently.
As for Mimic, in this site, he is stated as a mutant.
Mad Jim Jaspers and Meggan (in Marvel Wikia Database) are also stated as a mutants.
So I'm updating them back into the list.
As for other changes - might be SPOILERS below!!!
> moving Blink to JGSHL
> Astra to Utopia
> Gateway to X-force.
> adding Trista
WOLVERINES' SIDE
---- JGSFHL STAFF/STUDENTS ----
- Angel
- Ariel
- Armor
- Anole
- Beast
- Blindfold
- Bling!
- Blink
- Cannonball
- Cecilia Reyes
- Chamber
- Cipher
- Ernst
- Face
- Frenzy
- Gambit
- Genesis
- Gentle
- Glob Herman
- Graymalkin
- Hellion
- Husk
- Iceman
- Indra
- Karma
- Kid Omega
- Krakoa Jr.
- Marvel Girl
- Match
- Mercury
- Northstar
- Oya
- Rockslide
- Rogue
- Shadowcat
- Toad
- Trance
- Wolverine
> NON MUTANTS
- Broo
- Doop
- Kid Gladiator
- Lockheed
- Warbird
---- UNCANNY X-FORCE ----
- Fantomex
- Gateway
- Nightcrawler (AOA)
- Psylocke
> NON MUTANTS
- Deadpool
- Deathlock
- Ultimatum
---- X-FACTOR ----
- Banshee/Syrin
- Havok
- Layla Miller
- M
- Multiple-Man
- Polaris
- Rictor
- Strong Guy
- Wolfsbane
> NON MUTANTS
- Longshot
- Pip the troll
- Shatterstar
CYCLOPS' SIDE
---- UTOPIA/San Francisco: X-Men/Trainees ----
- Boom Boom
- Colossus
- Crosta
- Cyclops
- Dazzler
- Domino
- Dr. Nemesis
- Dust
- Hope
- Lifeguard
- Loa
- Madison Jefferies
- Magik
- Magneto
- Martha Johannson
- Namor
- Pixie
- Primal
- Psylocke
- Sebastian Shaw
- Stepford Cuckoos - Celeste, Mindie, Phoebe
- Storm
- Surge
- Transonic
- Velocidad
- Warpath
- White Queen
- Zero
---- UTOPIA/Other Mutants Residents ----
- Adam X
- Astra
- Avalanche
- Bliss
- Dragoness
- Empath
- Erg
- Litterbug
- Lorelei
- Masque
- Mortis
- Nunez, Leon
- Outlaw
- Random
- Rhapsody
- Scalphunter
- Stinger
- Tattooed Man
- Trista
- Unuscione, Carmela
> NON MUTANTS
- Danger
- Jubillee
- Kavita Rao
- Prodigy
---- NEW MUTANTS ----
- Cypher
- Magma
- Sunspot
- X-Man
> NON MUTANTS
- Dani Moonstar
- Warlock
NO SIDE
- Alchemy
- Arclight
- Asylum
- Aurora
- Big Bertha
- Black Tom Cassidy
- Black Womb (Amanda Mueller)
- Blob (AOA)
- Bohusk, Tito
- Bobby Soul
- Braddock, Jamie
- Bruiser
- Cable
- Catiana
- Cheney, Lila
- Clay
- Collective Man (Sung Chang, Ho, Han, Lin Tao-Yu)
- Daken
- Dark Beast
- Darwin
- Dee, Jonnhy
- Doorman
- Dough and Jerry
- Elixir
- Emplate
- Exodus
- Famine
- Firestar
- Flatman
- Gamesmaster
- Gargouille
- Genocide
- Ghoul
- Gorgon
- Gibbon
- Guardian (Michael Pointer - the Collective)
- Gunderson, Milo
- Harpoon
- Joseph
- Justice
- Klara Prast
- Kylun
- Lady Mastermind
- Leech
- Legion
- Lightbright
- Lil’Bro
- Living Monolith
- Mad Jim Jaspers
- Major Victory
- Malice
- Mandrill
- Mastermind (Martinique Jason)
- Meggan
- Melter
- Mentallo
- Micromax
- Mimic
- Mindblast
- Mister X
- Mr. Immortal
- Mystique
- Neophite
- Nixon, Kiden
- Nuwa
- Orphan Maker
- Persuasion
- Pestilence
- Professor X
- Projector
- Proteus
- Pulse
- Quicksilver
- Rasputin, Mikhail
- Razorback
- Reaper
- Richards, Franklin
- Richochet
- Riptide
- Sabra
- Sabretooth
- Sage
- Scarlet Witch
- Shadow King
- Skein
- Skids
- Slade, Frederick
- Slug
- Smerdyakov, Gregor
- Squirrel Girl
- Stacy X
- Sugar Man
- Sunfire
- Tangerine
- Typhoid Mary
- Thornn
- Thunderbird II
- Toro
- Tryp, Damian
- Ursa Major
- Vanguard
- Vindaloo
- Voght, Amelia
- War
- Whedeon, Evangeline
- Whirlwind
- Wisdom, Pete
- Wiz Kid
- X-23
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Posted: 20-Jan-2012 at 7:45pm |
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Who is Trista?
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Posted: 20-Jan-2012 at 8:03pm |
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one of the "limbo babys" , who came back during the "rise&fall of the new mutants"-arc in new mutants - and were mostly obliterated along with the gods.... trista was not definitly seen dead - she only got her mouth sealed magically via Cypher (as her mutant powers were in here "overwhelming voice") - but if I am not mistaken she has not been seen since, or has she?! till then her whereabouts should be unknown....
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Posted: 20-Jan-2012 at 8:08pm |
Originally posted by Crawler
Who is Trista? | http://marvel.wikia.com/Trista_(Earth-616)
one of the Inferno Babies.
Originally posted by summerset
Ok, when I write "Mutants" you know I mean Homo Superior (as in mutant human) and not other species mutants like aliens and artificially created being. So let's leave Broo, Warlock, Shatterstar and Longshot listed as Non-Mutants, at least until proven differently. |
This also applies to Ariel. She's not from Earth.
Edited by marhawkman - 20-Jan-2012 at 8:19pm
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Posted: 20-Jan-2012 at 9:22pm |
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Well, I think that assuming Trista is on Utopia is a stretch, unless it's been explicitly stated or shown on-panel.
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Posted: 20-Jan-2012 at 9:34pm |
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Actually I only added Trista because in the Gillen last interview, someone listed a number of characters in a question who were staying in Utopia, and I quote:
"1) Currently Utopia seems to be housing a numbers a small complement of super-villains (such as Astra, Trista, Mortis, Tattooed Man, Leon Nunez, and Empath) either in their prison or hospital ward. Emma, Danger and Psylocke are apparently trying to rehabilitate these people. What progress are they making?".
Anyway, just re-read NewMutants #21and she is left alive but not shown to be taken to Utopia...
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Posted: 21-Jan-2012 at 5:38am |
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how's astra ended in Utopia and blink in JGSHL !!
oh and you miss Darkstar who returned a couple of years ago in a mini of the winter guard
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Posted: 21-Jan-2012 at 5:40am |
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Not as a mutant, though. She's possessing the body of a Dire Wraith mimicking the body of a woman surgically altered to resemble her.
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Posted: 21-Jan-2012 at 5:46am |
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Missing Artie Maddicks I think? He would go under "non-mutants" since he is de-powered. Or are you leaving de-powered mutants out on purpose? Maybe Leech, Franklin, and Artie can get their own slot for FF-kids.
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Posted: 21-Jan-2012 at 2:34pm |
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Not to be picky but wouldn't Danger, Jubillee, Kavita Rao and Prodigy be classed as Non mutants under the X-men/trainees heading, rather than the Utopia residents heading?
For the No Side heading, maybe break it down even further into X-men enemies, allies and neither?
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Posted: 21-Jan-2012 at 5:27pm |
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Last I saw Franklin had his powers.
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Posted: 21-Jan-2012 at 9:59pm |
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Yes Franklin and Leech have their powers. Artie doesn't, but he has a gadget that does them for him instead.
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Posted: 22-Jan-2012 at 4:34pm |
I've been searching in Marvel Wikia database about who's living in Utopia, and I came out with some changes and additions. Strangely they mention that Prof X and Legion are still residing there and, although Generation Hope team already include Pixie and No-Girl, Sebastian Shaw isn't in it.
So here it goes, a new update!
WOLVERINES' SIDE
---- JGSFHL STAFF/STUDENTS ----
- Angel - Armor
- Anole
- Beast
- Blindfold
- Bling!
- Blink
- Cannonball
- Cecilia Reyes
- Chamber
- Cipher
- Ernst
- Face
- Frenzy
- Gambit
- Genesis
- Gentle
- Glob Herman
- Graymalkin
- Hellion
- Husk
- Iceman
- Indra
- Karma
- Kid Omega
- Krakoa Jr.
- Marvel Girl
- Match
- Mercury
- Northstar
- Oya
- Rockslide
- Rogue
- Shadowcat
- Toad
- Trance
- Wolverine
> NON MUTANTS
- Ariel
- Bamfs - Broo
- Doop
- Kid Gladiator
- Lockheed
- Warbird
---- UNCANNY X-FORCE ----
- Fantomex
- Gateway
- Nightcrawler (AOA)
- Psylocke
> NON MUTANTS
- Deadpool
- Deathlock
- Ultimatum
---- X-FACTOR ----
- Banshee/Syrin
- Havok
- Layla Miller
- M
- Multiple-Man
- Polaris
- Rictor
- Strong Guy
- Wolfsbane
> NON MUTANTS
- Longshot
- Pip the troll
- Shatterstar
CYCLOPS' SIDE
---- UTOPIA/San Francisco: X-Men/Trainees ----
- Boom Boom
- Colossus
- Crosta
- Cyclops
- Dazzler
- Domino
- Dr. Nemesis
- Dust
- Hope
- Lifeguard
- Loa
- Madison Jefferies
- Magik
- Magneto
- Martha Johannson
- Namor
- Pixie
- Primal
- Psylocke
- Sebastian Shaw
- Stepford Cuckoos - Celeste, Irma Mindie, Phoebe
- Storm
- Surge
- Transonic
- Velocidad
- Warpath
- White Queen
- Zero
> NON MUTANTS
- Danger
- Jubillee
- Kavita Rao
- Prodigy
---- UTOPIA/Other Mutants Residents ----
- Adam X
- Alchemy
- Avalanche
- Bliss
- Dragoness
- Erg
- Litterbug
- Lorelei
- Masque
- Neophite
- Outlaw
- Random
- Rhapsody
- Scalphunter
- Stinger
- Trista
- Unuscione, Carmela - Voght, Amelia
- Whedeon, Evangeline
> NON MUTANTS
- Hepzibah - Ink
---- UTOPIA/Prisoners and Ward ----
- Astra
- Empath
- Nunez, Leon
- Mortis
- Tattooed Man
> NON MUTANTS
- Omega Sentinel
---- NEW MUTANTS ----
- Cypher
- Magma
- Sunspot
- X-Man
> NON MUTANTS
- Dani Moonstar
- Warlock
NO SIDE
- Arclight
- Asylum
- Aurora
- Big Bertha
- Black Tom Cassidy
- Black Womb (Amanda Mueller)
- Blob (AOA)
- Bohusk, Tito
- Bobby Soul
- Braddock, Jamie
- Bruiser
- Cable
- Catiana
- Cheney, Lila
- Clay
- Collective Man (Sung Chang, Ho, Han, Lin Tao-Yu)
- Daken
- Dark Beast
- Darwin
- Dee, Jonnhy
- Doorman
- Dough and Jerry
- Elixir
- Emplate
- Exodus
- Famine
- Firestar
- Flatman
- Gamesmaster
- Genocide
- Ghoul
- Gorgon
- Gibbon
- Guardian (Michael Pointer - the Collective)
- Gunderson, Milo
- Harpoon
- Joseph
- Justice
- Klara Prast
- Kylun
- Lady Mastermind
- Leech
- Legion
- Lightbright
- Lil’Bro
- Living Monolith
- Mad Jim Jaspers
- Major Victory
- Malice
- Mandrill
- Mastermind (Martinique Jason)
- Meggan
- Melter
- Mentallo
- Micromax
- Mimic
- Mindblast
- Mister X
- Mr. Immortal
- Mystique
- Nixon, Kiden
- Nuwa
- Orphan Maker
- Persuasion
- Pestilence
- Professor X
- Projector
- Proteus
- Pulse
- Quicksilver
- Rasputin, Mikhail
- Razorback
- Reaper
- Richards, Franklin
- Richochet
- Riptide
- Sabra
- Sabretooth
- Sage
- Scarlet Witch
- Shadow King
- Skein
- Skids
- Slade, Frederick
- Slug
- Smerdyakov, Gregor
- Squirrel Girl
- Stacy X
- Sugar Man
- Sunfire
- Tangerine
- Typhoid Mary
- Thornn
- Thunderbird II
- Toro
- Tryp, Damian
- Ursa Major
- Vanguard
- Vindaloo
- War
- Whirlwind
- Wisdom, Pete
- Wiz Kid
- X-23
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Posted: 22-Jan-2012 at 5:42pm |
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Not to be nit picky but Marvel wikia is run just like Wikipedia...so it isn't perfect.
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Posted: 22-Jan-2012 at 6:08pm |
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Im under the impression that Professor X and Legion stayed on Utopia because they need Dr. Nemesis to help control his personalities.
Also, not to be picky but Jamie goes by Madrox now, not Multiple Man...
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Posted: 23-Jan-2012 at 5:48pm |
Originally posted by Gibbering Fool
For the No Side heading, maybe break it down even further into X-men enemies, allies and neither? |
This is a good idea. Not an easy task though.
Maybe we could discuss here who's the enemy, ally or neither..
Originally posted by Blackcyclops
Not to be nit picky but Marvel wikia is run just like Wikipedia...so it isn't perfect. |
I know Marvel Wikia is not perfect, but it's really up to date.
A question... Are all the Winter Guard members dead?
If so I have to cross out them from the list.
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well, this version of the list is a lot better. I still like the idea of subdividing the "other" section though. especially as regards to chars who simply haven't been seen since Schism.
NO SIDE
- Arclight - Asylum - Aurora - Big Bertha - Black Tom Cassidy - Black Womb (Amanda Mueller) - Blob (AOA) - Bohusk, Tito - Bobby Soul - Braddock, Jamie - Bruiser - Cable - Catiana - Cheney, Lila - Clay - Collective Man (Sung Chang, Ho, Han, Lin Tao-Yu) - Daken - Dark Beast - Darwin - Dee, Jonnhy - Doorman - great lakes avengers - Dough and Jerry - Elixir - Emplate - Exodus - Famine - Firestar - Flatman - great lakes avengers - Gamesmaster - Genocide - Ghoul - Gorgon - Gibbon - Guardian (Michael Pointer - the Collective) - Gunderson, Milo - Harpoon - Joseph - Justice - Klara Prast - Runaways/Avengers Academy? - Kylun - Lady Mastermind - Leech - FF - Legion - Lightbright - Lil’Bro - Living Monolith - dead? - Mad Jim Jaspers - Major Victory - Malice - dead? - Mandrill - Mastermind (Martinique Jason) - Meggan - Melter - Young Masters - Mentallo - Micromax - Mimic - Mindblast - Mister X - Mr. Immortal - Great Lakes Avengers - Mystique - Hand - Nixon, Kiden - Nuwa - Orphan Maker - Persuasion - supervillain opposing Alpha flight - Pestilence - Professor X - Projector - Proteus - Pulse - Quicksilver - Avengers Academy - Rasputin, Mikhail - Razorback - Reaper - dead? - Richards, Franklin - FF - Richochet - Riptide - Sabra - Sabretooth - Hand? - Sage - Scarlet Witch - ? - Shadow King - Skein - Skids - SHIELD? - Slade, Frederick - Clan Akkaba - Slug - Smerdyakov, Gregor - Squirrel Girl - Avengers - Stacy X - Sugar Man - Sunfire - Tangerine - Typhoid Mary - Kingpin/Hand - Thornn - Thunderbird II - Toro - Tryp, Damian - Ursa Major - Vanguard - Vindaloo - War - Whirlwind - Wisdom, Pete - Wiz Kid - Avengers Academy - X-23 - Avengers Academy
Okay... that was less informative than I'd hoped....
shouldn't Hybrid be on here? apparently his human side is a mutant. His Dire wraith side... yeah, Dire Wraith. But he's a hybrid between a human mutant and a Dire Wraith.
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Posted: 23-Jan-2012 at 8:32pm |
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It's debatable whether they are dead or not. Slott said it's kinda up in the air.
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Think we're forgetting Darkstar and the Russians.
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isnt Darkstar dead?
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See previous page.
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Posted: 27-Jan-2012 at 2:54am |
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Also, I maintain that Trista shouldn't be on the list at all. Unless it was in a comic book or handbook, it didn't happen. The internet is full of people with pet theories and misinformation, and these pet theories and misconceptions show up all the time in Wiki-sites and interviews. Unless it happened in print, I can't imagine justifying putting it on the list.
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See previous page. |
wow. she is way too complicated.
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I'd put Trista down as Unknown. We don't know where she is, but we know she's probably not dead.
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