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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Mar-2012 at 6:23pm
Originally posted by Spectral Knight

So has Annie been confirmed as definitely out of the show for tbe next series? As it looked like they'd given her wiggle room to come back with the 'well, you always break the rules' line. Shame, as this was the first series where I really grew on her as an individual. I'm not sure about the latest entrant to the house...



Oh, well remember, I didn't see it. I just heard she went "into the beyond"....So far they said that Tom and Hal had been signed, but that they were also keeping things under wraps. So Annie could very well be coming back.


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  Quote hotknives Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Mar-2012 at 6:47pm
We'll see on the new girl. Hopefully there'll be an interesting dynamic between her and Hal.
I'll certainly miss the Mum/Big sister figure that was Annie though, although I think Hal will step into this rule relatively well, albeit somewhat more unstable.

I just hope they develop or make more of the new girls powers though, Annie's were always very undefined.

Yep, they've confirmed it was her last episode, there's a nice little goodbye Annie episode on the blog.

Annie was my favourite throughout, and I am sad she's gone - especially as Lenora who plays her is just as nice in life as well. She bought a warmth to the show, no matter the situation.

My Nina love was fairly brief, I can't say she was ever a favourite, but I didn't hate her by the end of the 3rd series, when I pretty much had done at the start. Great actress, but the character didn't work too well for me
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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Mar-2012 at 7:09pm
I'm doing bad avoiding season 4 spoilers haha but then again I still no none of the why's, so I'm good!

Yse Annie was always my favorite. She brought warmth, drama and comedy. Leorna was always amazing. At times I felt they didn't know what to do with Annie. I never really liked the Annie/Mitchell pairing. It wasn't that the two didn't have chemistry, it just felt forced, so if there is a new ghost with a connection to Hal, I hope they don't go the romance route.

I went back and forth on Nina. Loved her season 1, parts of season 2 couldn't stand her, loved her beginning of season 3, hated her towards the the middle, then went back to liking her in towards the last couple of episodes. It was gut wrenching to hear how they killed her and I just hope that Griffin was lying when he said she begged and cried as they killed her. Such a brutal way to go...Still I thought the actress did a great job.

Mitchell, I agree was one note towards the end but his death was poignant. It was sad seeing Annie and George deal with it and George finally having to stake him.

And George's death was even harder! Poor guy! That was crushing but he did get to be with "his Nina".

I really like both new guys so far. Tom cracks me up and Hal is really interesting.

Part of me wants them to make this new roommate maybe a "bad ghost"(we've seen bad versions of everyone else...) or maybe just a ghost who starts abusing their power. Or maybe we can include a new supernatural. A witch roommate perhaps?

I think Annie will be harder to top then George and Mitchell just because she was always sort of the viewers mouthpiece and then became their anchor in season 4. Whoever follows her has it the hardest, so maybe that's why they should throw a curve ball and not even have a ghost.

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  Quote hotknives Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Mar-2012 at 7:59pm
I went to the screening of the first episode of Series 2 - the bar was full of sofas and lights and stuff to look like the front room in the Bristol house. All the other cast members waved hello, and then went into the screening - Lenora got there early, dressed as Annie, and wandered around making people tea. It was brilliant, and i'm somewhat attached to her as a result. Genuinely gutted to see her go.

Hopefully, (and trying to put this as spoilerfree as possible for Xtreme), what happened to new ghost (Alex), after her death/at her death, will maybe turn her a bit darker?

After all, we met Annie sometime after her death...

I do hope they go down the dark ghost route. After all, I don't think Tom will go dark, just maybe grow up/less innocent a bit, and they've done the Hal struggling and overcoming his urges this season. Hopefully he'll be a bit lighter next season
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  Quote Spectral Knight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Mar-2012 at 8:02pm
What I really liked about Tom was that he didn't feel a 'new person' - by having him introduced throughout series 3, it meant his development into a leading character a lot better. I think him and Hal's contrast is much more pronounced than George and Mitchell's was, which brings in a lot of the comedy that I thought was a bit absent in series 3. In someways it reminds me of the Lister/Rimmer relationship of early Red Dwarf where there was intent to almost deliberately infuriate the other person (compared to early Being Human where the two male leads were actually pretty close and got on very well).
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  Quote hotknives Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Mar-2012 at 8:15pm
Yeah, I really like the dynamic between them. I think they're so different that they'll always wind each other up, although it was nice to see Tom admit that he was his best mate. Hopefully there'll be more cafe stuff - that was very, very funny.
The humour was really lacking in Series 3, I'm extremely glad to have it back
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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Mar-2012 at 8:29pm
It will be interesting to see the birth of a "vampire/werewolf" friendship...

And don;t worry about season 4 spoilers, post away. I was the one who came in here, if I cross them it's my fault! But thanks hotknives!

And wow that sounds awesome that Leorna did that. I've seen the cast video diaries on youtube and she seems really nice there as well.

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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Apr-2012 at 5:57pm
So I finally watched the finale! It was just WOW...

What a brilliant send off for Annie. Perfect. Lenora got to put on the full works, humor, drama and kicking major ass. I watched the "Goodbye Annie" video on youtube and I agree, there was no where else for the character to go after saving the world and killing off the most powerful vampires in the world. I'll miss her tremendously, but such a perfect and fitting ending to a character. Loved when she went through the door, looking both excited and content. Perfect way for her to go.

Loved the little moments between Hal and Tom throughout. They'll be able to carry the show on without a problem. I wish they would have gotten to say goodbye to Annie or we could have had their reactions. It sort of just jumped to Hal being tied up...

Definitely not feeling great about new ghost Alex. Wow did she grate on my nerves and as the show went on, I felt the actress got progressively worse, which is strange. I'm kind of hoping she doesn't stick around. Plus I don't feel good that the third member of the gang seems to have such an attachment to Hal. It was okay when Nina joined the cast because the three core still existed but to have that relationship when it's just the three of them, I worry that Tom will be off on his own little stories and not with the group. So yeah, I wouldn't mind if we say bye-bye to Alex.

I sort of wish ghost adult Eve stuck around and became the house ghost. Yeah I know it couldn't be possible because she didn't exist and because she had to have that dramatic disappearing moment where she confirmed to Annie that she did the right thing...but I would have liked if she reappeared outside, forced to be pretty much a ghost forever because she's not just a ghost with unfinished business, she's a ghost who never existed. Basically a ghost of a ghost or some far fetched Doctor Who logic haha.

It could also relate back to how the war child could save the world because I'm still confused. How exactly will all vampires die now? Plus it would make it less depressing to now that George, Nina and Annie's(yeah I'm including her) baby was just born to die. If she was born to become a powerful ghost like Annie, that would work.

I just feel she'd be a better fit. She has both a past and future with the characters. She connects to Annie, George, Nina and even Mitchell, while also having her own established connections/views on Tom and Hal. I think she would have been perfect in the post Annie era. Alex, not so much.

So the government knows about the supernaturals...I hope they aren't the villains. They didn't seem very menacing but where more of a nice "oh so that exists", if they become another player in the world that could work but not the big bad for next season. I'm still sort of hoping that Alex becomes an angry, vengeful ghost,

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  Quote hotknives Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Apr-2012 at 9:50pm
Hmm, ghost Eve could have worked very well.
Especially as we know that she's lived a horrific life and became some sort of warriorlike figurehead - would have been very interesting to see her fitting into life in the B&B...

I can't say i'm over keen on Alex... Then again, I can see the vengeful ghost thing working - have her angry about her death, and instead of becoming the new Annie, she becomes the new big bad.

I think a ghost is probably the easiest thing to introduce - have someone come to the house, die, and then stick around.

My favourite choice would be the social worker from last season - I adore Nicola Walker, she's not doing Spooks/MI:5 anymore, and she'd bring something brilliant to the show.

Maybe Alex will mellow with time though. I can't see her being with Hal, maybe they'll not go for the romance idea, but just have the three of them as friends? I don't think the romance works particularly well with the main three - George and Nina were fine, but Mitchell and Annie didn't really work for me.

The government knowing was interesting - I guess not surprising, given how many vampires are in the police force.

I wish Cutler had stuck around - his death was great, but I liked the character a lot, think he could have been very interesting. I know he could have a Herrick style return, but I doubt it
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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Apr-2012 at 2:51am
Hah I felt so bad for the social worker, I wouldn't mind if she came back. Not sure how'd she work in the house.

And yeah, Eve would have great journey towards "Being Human", I feel Alex is already there...which I guess so was Annie but in terms of Annie, and I believe she said this sometime during season 1, after she died was the first time she lived. Can we really go through that with Alex again?

And yeah I wasn't a big fan of Annie/Mitchell, only because it made Annie seem pathetic just because Mitchell was such a mess come season 3. Still a ghost relationship would work for Ha, no germs, hardly feeling the touch, and no sex haha. But yeah I really hope it doesn't happen!

I loved Cutler, he was terrific. His ending was gruesome. Seriously, that was just gross haha. But I loved that scene. It was so tense. Whoever played Cutler was terrific, as was Lenora.

And yeah ghosts are definitely the easiest to introduce, so if Alex does go bad(and I hope she does...Maybe she like possesses people, feeds them to Hal haha)...

It's just going to be weird that there will NO connection to the original gang at all. I don't count the B&B, as it wasn't the original home.

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  Quote hotknives Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Apr-2012 at 10:16am
True, I'm definitely glad they had a series with the two new guys and Lenora, otherwise I think it would have been quite a jump to go to three new characters.

Eve coming back would provide a nice link to the nice gang, I reckon - child of Nina and George, who considers Annie her mother. Also, it'd be great to see how she reacts to living with Tom and Hal - considering she remembers Tom as dying fairly young, and Hal as a Hitleresque vampire dictator figure.

I suppose Alex visiting her family/looking after them from the grave etc might provide some pathos and some storylines. Annie didn't really have anyone, save her ex fiancee, so it could be interesting to see a ghost deal with having to watch their families grieve for them
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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Apr-2012 at 3:52pm
Hmm that's true, though Alex's family doesn't live in Barry. She was visiting there. I wonder how that will play into things.

Also I wonder if the new werewolf will be part of the next season. I liked him. I thought the actor did well. In fact in his ten minutes of screen time, I liked him more then Alex haha'

PS: Just read that it's confirmed ALex is the new ghost.. Bummed. I hope they improve on her big time.

Also in the same article I read that The Fades won't get another/series...also bummed. I had read that did well in the ratings :(

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  Quote hotknives Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Apr-2012 at 10:23pm
Ah true, I forgot she was on holiday...

Well, the writing was pretty good for the last series - I hope it continues, and they do something decent with Alex. We shall see, Toby Whithouse tends to know what he's doing, but I just don't like the character that much at the moment.

Yeah, sucks about The Fades, I think that deserved to continue for a bit
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  Quote Blackcyclops Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Apr-2012 at 7:06am
I caught up on Being Human...and I have to say that this thread is going to look like an old X-Factor thread because I agree with everyone else about Annie and Alex.

Plus, as shallow as it sounds, I'm going to be sad to not see Annie's beautiful face anymore. Alex is cute...in a kinda sorta wannabe edgy way, she looks like a mix of Rachel McAdams and Maggie G. But she's no Annie.

I do like Hal and Tom more than I like Mitchell and George...alot more
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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Apr-2012 at 3:45pm
Haha it's not shallow because Annie might have a pretty face but she was an excellent actress and character, so it isn't like we all like just cause she's pretty. She's awesome too! She was the heart and soul of the group, the one who helped steer them towards being Human.

Hal and Tom now have each other for that(again thanks to Annie). That's what is great about the Hal and Tom relationship. I always felt Mitchell and George were a bit more destructive. Mitchell was a horrible influence on George. But Hal and Tom compliment each other in such a way that it's great seeing their relationship build because it fits so perfectly with the show's theme.

Should be interesting to see how Alex fits into that. I do agree she has a wannabe edgy look to her, though she is very pretty..But come on, wear some shoelaces, and stop complaining about looking like a girl.

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  Quote Blackcyclops Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Apr-2012 at 4:01pm
YES!!!! I was so irritated by the no shoe laces LOL...

And I agree 100% about Annie. She made the show for me alot of the time. And you are spot on about Mitchell and George. George was someone who was on par to live a relatively normal life, in some ways. But Mitchel brought him down. You really see this at the start of this most recent season. I think that's what made George's fate so sad to me. And Mitchel became unlikable after awhile. I'm usually all for the main characters in a TV show. But I really got frustrated with his antics.
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  Quote hotknives Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Apr-2012 at 7:54pm
Ha, I hadn't noticed the no shoelace thing at all.

Lenora Crichlow is extremely pretty, it's true.

Yeah, Mitchell grated on me, his storylines were pretty repetitive, despite Aidan Turner being stupidly handsome.   I preferred George a lot, and thought his end was tragic, if hastily written
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  Quote Spectral Knight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Feb-2013 at 4:00pm
Anyone caught the Series 5 opening episodes?

Great start to the last *sniff sniff* series, Hal and Tom still play off each other perfectly, and Alex got lots of serious focus. Not quite sure why Captain Hatch wanted Alex away from the other two; he seemed overly conscious about 'The Trinity'. Need to go back and watch Episode 1 (didn't know the series had started, so had to jump on at episode 2). The Men with Sticks and Rope were as frightening as ever.
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