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BeastMcLion
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Topic: Is Beast a Mutant? Posted: 10-Feb-2012 at 2:41pm |
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I have just read origins comics I and in it is the beast origin but according to this beast's father was affected by radiation before his birth would this technically mean hes not a mutant but more like spiderman?
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Posted: 10-Feb-2012 at 2:46pm |
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If the radiation led to Hank McCoy being born with an X-Gene, he's a mutant. If it didn't, then he's not. The last 50 years of X-Men comics indicate the former is true.
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Posted: 11-Feb-2012 at 12:33pm |
yes he was born X-Gene positive and his initial mutation is a result of being a mutant... where that x-gene came from is irrelivant.
However - yes he has sinice then altered himself in an attempt to not be a mutant... the result is he mutated. so he is infact a mutant mutate. though this has never technically been addressed... he has always been mentally scanned as a mutant and depowered with anti-mutant dapening devices such as when the HighEvolutionary and Sinister depowered all the mutants. Furthermore, it may be that Hank's tampering with his genetics did protect him from Wanda's "no more mutants"but this is simply fan theory
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Posted: 11-Feb-2012 at 2:00pm |
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Hank never attempted to alter himself to not be a mutant. His initial furry mutation came from a serum designed to enhance his mutation, not rid him of it.
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Posted: 12-Feb-2012 at 1:56am |
oh. I wonder why i thought that.... ok so for whatever reasons Hank altered himself.
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Posted: 12-Feb-2012 at 2:11am |
Originally posted by Caenman
oh. I wonder why i thought that.... ok so for whatever reasons Hank altered himself.
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You might have thought that because you read that he was attempting to hide the fact that he was the Beast. Which is true, but he was doing so by mutating further, not less.
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Posted: 12-Feb-2012 at 2:13am |
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You were probably thinking of the Astonishing X-Men arc with "The Cure" where Beast pondered taking it to get rid of his mutation. But he never did, so while that story echoes the one where Beast turned himself blue and fuzzy, they were pretty dis-similar events.
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Posted: 12-Feb-2012 at 4:14am |
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Also the fact that in the beginning of X-Factor (1st Series) his blue furry form was cured against his will, restoring him to his classic look, by Professer Maddicks who was attempting to cure mutants and basically came up with one but was subsequently killed and his cure died with him. So "The Cure" arc from Astonishing echoed that story more-so.
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Posted: 12-Feb-2012 at 8:21am |
Originally posted by Anna Raven
You were probably thinking of the Astonishing X-Men arc with "The Cure" where Beast pondered taking it to get rid of his mutation. But he never did, so while that story echoes the one where Beast turned himself blue and fuzzy, they were pretty dis-similar events. |
yeah - no. this is something i'v been under the impression of for many years, like since the 90s. I did probably just miss interperate something somewhere as a young and uninformed new reader
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Posted: 12-Feb-2012 at 11:03am |
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Given the origins of the X-Men in the real world (During the 60's, where anything "radiation" was in) it was generally accepted that the increase in radiation in the world accelerated the appearance of people with the X-gene. This was directly implied in the "God Loves, Man Kills" special where Stryker's son was born a mutant (who he killed, lovely guy). He was exposed to radiation in the military and you are meant to believe that is why his son was born with the X-gene.
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Posted: 12-Feb-2012 at 11:28am |
Originally posted by Caenman
Originally posted by Anna Raven
You were probably thinking of the Astonishing X-Men arc with "The Cure" where Beast pondered taking it to get rid of his mutation. But he never did, so while that story echoes the one where Beast turned himself blue and fuzzy, they were pretty dis-similar events. | yeah - no. this is something i'v been under the impression of for many years, like since the 90s. I did probably just miss interperate something somewhere as a young and uninformed new reader |
the could be from the 90s Xmen cartoon.
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Posted: 12-Feb-2012 at 12:14pm |
Originally posted by marhawkman
Originally posted by Caenman
Originally posted by Anna Raven
You were probably thinking of the Astonishing X-Men arc with "The Cure" where Beast pondered taking it to get rid of his mutation. But he never did, so while that story echoes the one where Beast turned himself blue and fuzzy, they were pretty dis-similar events. | yeah - no. this is something i'v been under the impression of for many years, like since the 90s. I did probably just miss interperate something somewhere as a young and uninformed new reader | the could be from the 90s Xmen cartoon. |
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Posted: 12-Feb-2012 at 1:41pm |
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Sunfire's parents (grandparents now?) were meant to have been exposed to Hiroshima right? And that influenced his getting an x-gene?
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Posted: 12-Feb-2012 at 2:27pm |
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His mother was a Hiroshima survivor, but she died in child-birth.... putting the whole existence of Sunpyre, a younger sister with identical powers, into question.
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Posted: 12-Feb-2012 at 6:30pm |
Originally posted by Peter Luzifer
His mother was a Hiroshima survivor, but she died in child-birth.... putting the whole existence of Sunpyre, a younger sister with identical powers, into question. |
Possible to just be a half-sister?
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Posted: 12-Feb-2012 at 7:08pm |
Indeed, but if Sunfire's mutation was caused by his mother being a Hiroshima survivor, why does his half-sister (born to a different mother) have the exact same mutation ?
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Posted: 13-Feb-2012 at 1:22am |
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Paternal inheritance? maybe his father was part of it.
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Posted: 13-Feb-2012 at 10:58am |
Originally posted by marhawkman
Originally posted by Caenman
Originally posted by Anna Raven
You were probably thinking of the Astonishing X-Men arc with "The Cure" where Beast pondered taking it to get rid of his mutation. But he never did, so while that story echoes the one where Beast turned himself blue and fuzzy, they were pretty dis-similar events. | yeah - no. this is something i'v been under the impression of for many years, like since the 90s. I did probably just miss interperate something somewhere as a young and uninformed new reader | the could be from the 90s Xmen cartoon. |
actually in the cartoon universe his mutation was always blue... well he was looking at highschool photos of himself as blue... but then in the episode with Iceman and Polaris he is seen in old footage as original Beast...
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Posted: 13-Feb-2012 at 3:44pm |
there was this one Spiderman-crossover ep (which may have technically been an episode of Spiderman) where he talks to one of the villains about how trying to deny who you are is a bad thing. One of the things he mentions is something he accidentally did to himself.
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Posted: 14-Feb-2012 at 4:12am |
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well nifty then
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