The return of... X-TREME X-MEN

I didn't say that the book didn't feature obscure characters (Mimic and Thunderbird were definitely obscure). I never even made an argument that Wolverine and Emma were obscure.

All I said was that the original Exiles were variations of fan-favorites or amalgamation of them (Magnus reminded me of Franklin). I never said your point was wrong OR that it wasn't a legit gripe to have. And yeah Nocturne is definitely a variation on the Nightcrawler. That doesn't mean she didn't develop into her own unique character (just like any alt-world character has the potential to do...yes even one of Wolverine). But like you said you are going to avoid it.


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I apologize how rude I came off at first.



Edited by Blackcyclops - 19-Mar-2012 at 4:30am

Originally posted by UncannyScott Originally posted by Majestic Originally posted by Daytripper Why can't Marvel give us what we want instead of what they think we need? What did we want again? The age old question, that has no answer as comic fans never fully know what they want. And if Marvel did give them what they want they'd find some reason that was wrong still I'm sure.

Seriously?  Sense of wonder is something that's easier to hold as a child and can't easily be replicated in adulthood.  I could go into the various scientific reasons for this, suffice to say that it's hardwired into our brains to be easier to be impressed with the idea of something the younger you are.

Now stop moping and dance!

*dances*

It actually makes perfect since for Dazzler. She already has a history of interacting and traveling to other universes. She's been a Herald of Galactus, the Leader Queen of a rebellion in Mojo World, the X-Babies, Excalibur.

She's perfect as the lead in a dimension-hopping story. I don't see the shoehorning at all.

Originally posted by UncannyScott Not that I diminish anyones feelings or opinions as we all have different one's and there is reason for some to feel this way, I do find it sad sometimes just how cynical comic fans have become. There seems to be no excitement or sense of wonder most of the time till a book comes out. Every book that comes out is torn apart in ways. Even the stuff people love now like WATXM and Uncanny X-Force were torn to shreds when they put out promos. Just saddening sometimes that people are so aware of the often nature of canceled books and assumes they'll end and feels that Marvel owes them something and nothing is ever the right thing their owed. Again not saying anyone is wrong or shouldn't feel this way or such as I respect all opinions. Just sad sometimes.

Try to cheer up and think of it this way. Half the fans love some of the titles and don't comment a lot , but the books and news they hate they comment on. Then the other half of the fans have the same reaction but for the opposite slate of books and news. But when reading message boards u see all of it so it seems like no one likes anything. It's not that comic fans can never be happy, it's that no two people will ever like or hate everything at the same time.

The cynicism thing is slightly different Though. Publishers repeat their practices a lot, and it becomes More noticeable the longer u follow comics. When u see the signs of them repeating a practice u didn't like the last go around, it's easy to be put off.   Good stories is the only thing that will negate that effect. But until the books come out, all we have is speculation based on either good memories, or bad memories.

For all the (correct) criticisms mentioned of the unveiled concept, surely the biggest is that Adam X won't be featuring. The man is X-TREME for Pete's sake. 

As much as I am glad to see Dazzler getting a focus this just doesnt excite. Its not a new idea, or even a new spin on an existing one. But il give it the benefit of the doubt just for some Dazzler love.

I wish she would get her hair cut too. I like it short and it helps distinguish her in Greg Land images.

Are yu sure that's not the Ms Marvel image you are looking at? I haven't seen any art for the X-treme X-Men series.

If they put her in her AoX aesthetic that would greatly increase their chances of me picking this up.

I also associate the starburst with Dazzler and Longshot... Shatterstar too... That was my first thought even though it's def a Captain Marvel thing... Funny

Putting Dazzler in her AoX costume would change EVERYTHING

My, we're all so very shallow lol.