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  Quote marhawkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Mar-2012 at 8:08pm
Originally posted by Xstryker

Jubilee's still 17? Jesus I hate Marvel's non-aging policy. She was 13 two and a half decades ago!!! I understand slowing things down a bit, but that's bloody ridiculous.

I hope Jube gets her powers back, but her vampirism somehow turbocharges them - blinding lights and deadly explosions, rapid-fire barrages, deafening booms, etc
Truthfully.... Jubilee WAS that powerful in Gen-X!  She once leveled a warehouse with a single blast!
 
In the regular Xmen comics she once helped Gambit blow the facade off a tall Shiar building.
 
and I agree, Jubilee should be more like 21 now....

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  Quote UncannyScott Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Mar-2012 at 9:14pm
Yeah I'm hoping the Dark Avengers thing is only an arc or two as well as I was not a fan of these last Dark Avengers. They were a watered down bunch compared to the first go around. If they wanted to capitalize on Dark Avengers doing more with the original group back then would have been the way to go.

Glad as well that Parker is not losing his cast. It is a shame that there is this big thing with adding Avengers or X and such to titles to surge the sales they think.
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  Quote Kipe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Mar-2012 at 9:27pm
The Dark Avengers (in a sense) sprung from the Thunderbolts though. That title is what situated Osborn and Moonstone to pull off the coup they did. So really, it's not a huge deviation.
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  Quote Blackcyclops Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Mar-2012 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by Kipe

The Dark Avengers (in a sense) sprung from the Thunderbolts though. That title is what situated Osborn and Moonstone to pull off the coup they did. So really, it's not a huge deviation.


That's actually a really good point.
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  Quote UncannyScott Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2012 at 12:24am
Nope not a deviation at all since Osborn's ideas for them sprung from Thunderbolts in a sense. Just sort of a lame grouping of Dark Avengers to keep pushing now. To me the original Dark Avengers who were Thunderbolts mostly before that were much more interesting and dark and rounded as characters. Ragnarok is not even close to interesting, and that Spider-Man fill in is eh as are the Dark Scarlet Witch and Trickshot. Skaar is cool though.
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  Quote Kipe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2012 at 12:45am
I don't have a clue about the characters, I was just commenting on the name change.
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  Quote UncannyScott Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2012 at 1:30am
Oh I know. I'm sort of saying that back with the first Dark Avengers was the time to really change Thunderbolts into that title. When there were stronger characters that people really enjoyed in Thunderbolts before they became Dark Avengers back then. Most people were either cold to these new versions, might have liked them, or a majority of people like myself that pretty much tuned out of the whole new Dark Avengers saga.
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  Quote Leo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2012 at 4:00am
Great, just as I started to warm up with Gischler. I'm not familiar with Wood's work, but I'm glad he kept most of the cast in this book. Shame about Warpath though, this team is already female heavy as it is. And I kinda like the idea of Gischler's writing a book about the Forgiven featuring Jubilee.
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  Quote Kipe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2012 at 6:36am
I'm enjoying Wood's WatX mini.
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  Quote EphemeristX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2012 at 3:36pm
Considering how old Monet is being written, Jubilee can't still be that young, can she?  Lol.  That's New X-Men aged!
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  Quote das_boot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2012 at 5:03pm
I think the problem with Gischler's writing is that it's taken this long for fans to warm to his style of story-telling. It's a shame he's dropping Jubilee, but like others have said, if it's an editorial thing, then there must be plans for her somewhere... either that, or editorial have decided to drop the Vampire thing altogether and want her in limbo for a few years before she returns de-vamped with only a vague explanation.

Wood, I'm excited for. His interview made sense (you really WOULDN'T have a security team that had such an over-lapping powerset as Colossus, Vampilee and Warpath), but I'm not sure on the inclusion of Pixie, even if she's only going to be used as rapid transport. It's a shame Warpath's gone, but realistically, what has he done in the past two arcs that have furthered his character? Jubilee, Storm and Psylocke have all had character beats in the previous and current arc, Colossus is getting his story told in Uncanny from what I hear, and Domino is just awesome and useful to help push plots along... Warpath doesn't really bring anything new to the mix that Colossus or Domino couldn't pick up, combat-wise.
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  Quote Gremlin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2012 at 5:35pm
The thing is you could easily drop Colossus and have Warpath pick up that role. As you said the main story beats of the Colossus/Juggernaut thing is happening in Uncanny, plus the relationship with his sister is being built up there too. ther than his powerset he doesn't really bring anything special to the table. Wood could use Warpath and if he really wanted to come up with some small story arcs for him.
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  Quote marhawkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2012 at 6:07pm
Originally posted by EphemeristX

Considering how old Monet is being written, Jubilee can't still be that young, can she?  Lol.  That's New X-Men aged!
YEah I know...  It's kinda annoying.

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  Quote Blackcyclops Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2012 at 6:37pm
Well on the bright side: its better for Wood to have dropped Warpath instead of using the character and not knowing what to do with him.
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  Quote Kipe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Mar-2012 at 6:41pm
Can she just please be 18 now? Even with the sliding scale it's still not possible for her to be 17. It's been like three years in universe since she left the titles post-Morrison run and she was at least sixteen in Uncanny then.

Maybe this is just the core cast and he'll rotate in others on arc by arc basis. It makes sense. It's the security team. There's bound to be different useful mutants and X-Men around at some point.

Hopefully, anyway.

Wood has been writing a great Rachel, Hisako, Quentin, Logan, Mercury, and Bling in the Alpha and Omega mini. I'm excited to see him tackle the characters left in the cast.
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  Quote Leo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 3:47am
Well, I don't really read the Alpha and Omega mini, so I'll just have to take your word for it, Kipe.

I'm just glad that Wood seems to have a good sense of what he wants to do with the book and the cast. Gischler has finally stepped up, so hopefully with Wood coming in, it will get even better.
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  Quote kanderson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 6:56am
wouldn't be surprised if it the team does rotate a bit after the first arc, probally add one more Male X-Man, just wondering who that might be, has to be someone with a different powerset then Peter.

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  Quote Xstryker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 7:07pm
I don't see the need to add another male to the team. X-Force seems to functioning fine with Betsy as the only female.
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  Quote Kipe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 7:21pm
I don't see the need to add another male to the team. X-Force seems to functioning fine with Betsy as the only female.


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  Quote Blackcyclops Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 7:30pm
Or the Fantastic Four for majority of 50 years lol...

"Too many females" has been a complaint aimed another X-team before...I don't understand it. Combine that with "Captain Marvel's costume is too masculine" and I wonder how enlightened we really think we are as comic fans.
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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 7:41pm
Originally posted by Blackcyclops

Or the Fantastic Four for majority of 50 years lol...

"Too many females" has been a complaint aimed another X-team before...I don't understand it. Combine that with "Captain Marvel's costume is too masculine" and I wonder how enlightened we really think we are as comic fans.


Not very...Let's face it, a good deal of comic fans love comics for T&A and violence. We might not see it on the boards, but I think that's what exists out there. But it's like that in every genre of entertainment.

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  Quote Blackcyclops Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 8:02pm
Violence I can believe...because I do. But I just don't believe many of us look at comics for T&A...not because I think we're super-enlightened but because comic T&A isn't appealing LOL...
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  Quote XtremeOne1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 8:17pm
Originally posted by Blackcyclops

Violence I can believe...because I do. But I just don't believe many of us look at comics for T&A...not because I think we're super-enlightened but because comic T&A isn't appealing LOL...


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  Quote Gremlin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 8:41pm
To be honest I always feel a little patronised when artists to T+A shots and over emphasise the...assets. Some of Land's recent work of butt-shots of Psylocke was particularly cringeworthy. 
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  Quote hotknives Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 8:44pm
Yes, I think T&A are still a massive part of comics. See last months week of Psylocke ass shots...
And that X-Women one shot that Claremont did - that had more girl T&A than i've ever seen in my life
Still, at least we've moved on from the days of the Marvel Swimsuit Special. I think...?
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