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Topic: Namor scott and emma?what you believe? Posted: 30-Mar-2012 at 1:36pm |
hi am new here and i have a question.in fear itself we saw emma to kiss namor when she tryed to kill hope.my last comic was uncanny xmen vol 2-4 but we didnt saw anything about namor and emma!what you believe emma will choose namor or scott? ps sorry for my english and these forum is the best
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Posted: 30-Mar-2012 at 1:48pm |
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They have been teasing this Emma/Namor relationship for a few years now and I don't believe anything big will ever come of it. From a character standpoint; Emma has already made it clear her heart is with Scott and from the editorial side I don't think it's prudent to break them appart because they work and the fans like their dynamic.
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Posted: 30-Mar-2012 at 4:07pm |
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I think Emma is where she wants to be now -- semi-leader of ALL mutants, a man she loves and who loves her, and the ability to call the shots (to some degree). I don't think Emma would leave Scott for Namor.
I don't see what she would get from going with Namor -- Namor thinks that he values her more than Scott does but I don't know if Emma believes that.
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Posted: 30-Mar-2012 at 7:46pm |
well first was wolverine with jean and now is emma with namor ...poor scott
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Posted: 30-Mar-2012 at 7:55pm |
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Wolverine and Jean were never together and Emma is with Scott, not Namor. He's actually the guy that gets the girls that others want. Poor wolverine and Namor.
Edited by ev82 - 30-Mar-2012 at 7:58pm
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Posted: 30-Mar-2012 at 8:26pm |
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Poor Namor? I can get behind poor Logan but not poor Namor. And not even because of this but because the man has been chasing a married woman down for like 4 decades LOL
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Posted: 30-Mar-2012 at 9:50pm |
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I don't think this any different than the way Emma has been shown to flirt with Tony Stark. She's a woman that knows how to manipulate men to get what she needs, but there's no doubt that she only really loves Scott. She has a history of a physical relationship with some of these other characters, but with Scott she's the queen of mutantkind and she's not going anywhere. No need, these two are way better together than Scott and Jean ever were.
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Posted: 30-Mar-2012 at 10:53pm |
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It's too bad we can't have an amoral Emma who uses Namor as her boy toy. If he or Scott doesn't like it, she could always perfrom psychic surgery on them. Too bad modern Emma is all bark & no bite.
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Posted: 30-Mar-2012 at 11:27pm |
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Ask Shaw and Sinister if she's "no bite".
I think part of her flirtation with Namor is diplomatic/pragmatic. If Namor really thought he didn't have a chance in hell with Emma I'm not so sure the Atlantean/Utopian alliance would be as easy to hold up.
Plus, flirting with Namor keeps Scott in check. He has the tendency to take her being there for granted. Just like he just assumed she would side with him in Schism and didn't really think that there was anything else she might want.
I have no doubt Emma wants to be with Scott, but I don't believe that translates to her wanting to be on Utopia. She does now, because she's bankrolling it, it's an investment, and it's success or failure will effect her greatly on a financial scale. But it's still a dirt rock in the middle of the ocean and a world-class fashionista business woman like her would much rather live in a mansion in Westchester.
Honestly, I believe she holds just as much power and sway as Cyclops, if not more, when it comes to Utopia now. She's paying for all of it. Every morsel of food, every shower, and every stitch anyone receives is because of her. Even during the Evolutionaries arc, Emma took control. The kids listened to HER and put Scott in quarantine against his will. They even stood up to him after he threatened them.
If Emma declared Scott unfit (mentally or physically) to rule Utopia, I think most would back her decision except for maybe Magneto, Nemesis, and the New Mutants. The New Mutants don't even live on Utopia anymore, so how much of their say would matter is anyone's guess.
Even Storm would back Emma if she didn't like something Scott did.
So technically, if Emma wanted to, she could probably rule both Utopia AND Atlantis.
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Posted: 30-Mar-2012 at 11:35pm |
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I want to live in that storyline.
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Posted: 30-Mar-2012 at 11:40pm |
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I want this to happen just so Emma can look at Storm with a smile and say "I've been a Queen three times over, what have you got?"
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Posted: 31-Mar-2012 at 2:32am |
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Also remember that generally speaking, Namor's character arc exists on a loop of wanting to declare war on the surface world, finding a common enemy that requires he bash heads with more acceptable heroes, then falling in love with a blond woman, then falling in love with another blond woman who's already taken, lather rinse repeat.
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Posted: 31-Mar-2012 at 2:35am |
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He should just buy a tanker ship full of peroxide to make his life easier.
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Posted: 31-Mar-2012 at 7:12am |
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It's funny when you realize that Emma and Scott have only been together since Morrison's run, 8 years ago? And yet Emma and Scott are better then Scott and Jean ever were. In general like everyone has said, Emma is her own woman, she does not need Scott to complete her, she already feels complete on her own, but she loves Scott and desires to be with him. I like that dynamic, same can be said for Scott, Scott has come a long way since Jean and only Emma was able to help him understand his own greatness and help him build real confidence to become the leader he has become for all mutants. I would argue that the Scott/Jean relationship held him back. The only thing I could see as potential conflict in the Emma/Scott relationship that could cause any wedge between them would not be a rebirth of Jean or advances from Namor but issues surrounding Hope. Scott has made promises to his son and also has hope in hope, which at the moment it seems Emma respects..... But who knows what awaits in the halls of AvsX
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Posted: 31-Mar-2012 at 5:42pm |
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I could definitely see Emma going with Namor during AvX. From the
"things to come" in Uncanny #1 it's known they will have at least one
more passionate moment, and this one seems more enthusiastic on both
their parts, as opposed to the ones shown so far which have been rather
one-sided.
The reasons for this would be Emma's
major mistrust of Hope (it's always Emma who brings up the "or she might kill
us all" argument) and discontent with Cyclops' ever-growing obsession
with Hope and his mission since Schism (as last seen in Uncanny #9) to the exclusion of all else (mainly her!).
Also, Marvel
has outright said there will be many twists and turns during AvX, one might thus
be Emma and Namor deciding to give over Hope (and in extension Cyclops)
to the Avengers. In return they get to keep Utopia (which Emma happens
to be paying for) unmolested.
In fact, this not happening would
seem a little like a waste of build-up I think. But Marvel is known for
teasing and not delivering so who knows. And even if it does happen it
might also turn around again during the course of the crossover. They
seem to want to leave the readers guessing at every turn.
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Posted: 31-Mar-2012 at 5:45pm |
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I think there might be an underestimation of Namor's plans and schemes. I know this is a X-board but don't think Emma can easily manipulate Namor without him getting something (and no not that lol) in return.
I also think Kipe hit a great point: that Emma really loves Cyclops (and vice-versa).
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Posted: 31-Mar-2012 at 6:24pm |
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Yeah, Emma likes being with Cyclops, and vice versa. BTW, how many of you forgot the number of times that Namor has tried to make Sue his queen?
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Posted: 31-Mar-2012 at 7:08pm |
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Namor has had a tragic love life too...besides yearning for another man's wife, his one time wife died, then he was in love with Namora but it was revealed to be magically created...oh and then his other wife, Marrina, totally went crazy. But now that she is back...I wonder when will Namor find this out?
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