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das_boot
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Posted: 15-Apr-2012 at 9:34pm |
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Posted: 15-Apr-2012 at 9:40pm |
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A little disappointed Liu is not writing this but the basic premise sounds good. I am glad that they are sidestepping the Thieves Guild and Belladonna as they would definetely be rehashing old stories. Not so pumped either about Clay Mann.
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Posted: 15-Apr-2012 at 9:48pm |
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Yeah, I agree. Whilst I think it's kind of impossible to lose the New Orleans connection entirely, I'm glad that they're not going to rehash the Thieves Guild and Belladonna stuff. It'll be interesting to see who they have him interacting with outside of the X-Men and in the larger Marvel universe. This kind of sounds like it might be the anti X-Factor...
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Posted: 15-Apr-2012 at 9:53pm |
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yawnnnnnnnnn. next please.
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Posted: 15-Apr-2012 at 11:01pm |
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I like Gambit being mystical and sexy, even i think he is hot as hell, but he have matured the last couple of years. I would rather see the cool big brother mentor thing he have with X-23 than him stealing stuff in space. Maybe do some kind of hero stuff on street level, like Daredevil. When they had different covers for who would take over being the hero in Hells Kitchen after Matt i really hoped it would be Remy instaid of Black Panther. I think it would be a good fit.
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Posted: 15-Apr-2012 at 11:12pm |
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What would drive Gambit to take over protecting Hell's Kitchen though?
Anyway, I'm super excited about this even though Clay Mann's art is just about the blandest in the biz. Hope he steps up his game for this.
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Posted: 16-Apr-2012 at 12:12am |
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Asmus did a good job on that Negative Zone annual story and I was just coming to appreciate his run on Generation Hope when it suddenly ended. I'm definitely looking forward to this!
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Posted: 16-Apr-2012 at 12:51am |
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So in for this. Asmus was the only thing I was liking about Generation Hope, so I'll definitely enjoy seeing more of his writing. Unlike others I'm a fan of Mann so the art is great to me.
While Gambit has matured and I like that and hope they still work with that and factor in X-23 and Cecilia into his supporting cast, I'm all for Gambit being the big thief again on the side. It's what he's good at and what he does, and it's been some time since he's done it. It's like Wolverine not going around slicing ninjas or Sabretooth or anything and anyone else, it's just part of the character. Back to the basics as was mentioned.
Also glad that they are sidestepping Belladonna and the Guilds, save that for perhaps later if there is a really good story reason to do it.
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Posted: 16-Apr-2012 at 1:45am |
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The avoidance of the Belladonna thing has to be the biggest sell for this book. Belladonna is essentially Gambit's Sabretooth...and see how awesome Sabretooth vs Wolverine is after being taken off the board for like 5years?
I actually think Belladonna should be used more in other books (like she is in Scarlet Spider). I think she has a great potential.
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Posted: 16-Apr-2012 at 3:59am |
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Yeah, um. I don't know. I like Mann's art. Maybe if Cecelia is in it. I guess.
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Posted: 16-Apr-2012 at 6:01am |
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I really loved Clay Mann's art in Age of X, thought he drew an awesome Gambit. I will give this one a try. Cable, Rogue Sam and Gambit still remain on my top X-Men list but I will admit I got board of the last Gambit series. So art has me buying but the will see if the stories keep my focus.
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Posted: 16-Apr-2012 at 8:21am |
- So AvsX will end bad for Gambit, at least for his X-men membership.
- Or has he got a secret X-mission collecting all those stuff from all over the Marvel universe?
Sounds like a good series if its the second explanation, kind of like hunting the Destiny Diaries, Indiana Jones
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Posted: 16-Apr-2012 at 4:12pm |
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Actually I don't believe it says anything about spanning out of AvX...that's Hawkeye's series.
Perhaps, and this might sound crazy, Gambit's like "Eff all this Rogue-ish, I'm about to be the cool, swagged out guy I used to be in the 90s"? LOL Its just as plausible as anything else stated so far.
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Posted: 16-Apr-2012 at 5:05pm |
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I will pick this up for sure, but my only reservation with a Gambit solo series that takes him out of the X-Men is that if the solo book is cancelled he will end up in limbo again. Really his character has been on the sidelines since this happened in the early 2000s.
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Posted: 16-Apr-2012 at 6:42pm |
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Sold, looking forward to it.
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Posted: 16-Apr-2012 at 11:47pm |
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Yeah the Gambit stuff doesn't say spinning our of AvX. It's basically just like before, giving him stuff outside the X-Men. Like Logan. Hawkeye interviews say that AvX affects the title a bit, though I wouldn't say fully fully as the title debuts before the event is over.
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Posted: 18-Apr-2012 at 3:33pm |
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A fan of everything Mann draws and most everything I've read from Asmus (especially Gen Hope) so I'm def sold.
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Posted: 19-Apr-2012 at 4:22am |
Originally posted by UncannyScott
While Gambit has matured and I like that and hope they still work with that and factor in X-23 and Cecilia into his supporting cast, I'm all for Gambit being the big thief again on the side. It's what he's good at and what he does, and it's been some time since he's done it. It's like Wolverine not going around slicing ninjas or Sabretooth or anything and anyone else, it's just part of the character. Back to the basics as was mentioned. |
That's exactly why I don't read Wolverine or solo titles in general. You call it "Back to basics", I call it "reversion to the mean" (or "back to square one" perhaps). Boring to read the same kind of story over and over again, same battle, same winner. It's why I so dreaded WatX, but fortunately I was pleasantly surprised to discover the title was more of an evolution than a reversion (especially for Logan, Kitty, and Bobby).
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Posted: 19-Apr-2012 at 5:00am |
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Back to the basics isn't necessarily "reversion to the mean". They aren't mutually exclusive. A great solo series (Daredevil, Brubaker's Captain America, Fraction's Iron Man, Parker's Hulk) doesn't necessarily do that.
Wolverine's solo title, as a perfect example, took Logan back to the basics but it brought in many new concepts: Dr. Rot, Red Right Hand, etc.
People in the real world sometimes go back to the basics. They shed excessive weight of current happenings and "revert" back to some previous feelings or attitudes.
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Posted: 20-Apr-2012 at 6:11pm |
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Glad to see he will be ditching the side-of-face-and-forehead-covering look that was oh so very 90s. Havok, you're next, buddy.
And confirmation that Gambit will be defined apart from Rogue and the XMen in general. Asmus called it "Indiana Jones meets Mission Impossible", Gambit will be thieving again.
Still not in my budget, but this sounds pretty good now. It's what I'd want a Gambit book to be, if I wanted a Gambit book. (which I don't, I want my X23 book back)
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Posted: 21-Apr-2012 at 9:28am |
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Booooriiiing. Maybe if Cece and X-23 show up. But I also don't want him banging either of them. Gah.
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Posted: 22-Apr-2012 at 5:57am |
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Like BC said going back to basics is not always just rehasing stuff. Sometimes it's coming back to what is the core of the character and moving forward at the same time. Like the example of the Wolverine solo BC brought up. While it took Wolverine back to some basics it also gave him emotions and human moments unlike previous runs and the regular use of Logan that was just "Grr *snikt* beer!".
Getting back to a basics with Gambit will allow for some growth. While I like some that Carey did with him, lately Gambit has been all about the triangle with Rogue and Magneto for the most part. Having him out being one of the best there is at what he does can be great for him. Build him back into a strong character after years of tearing him apart and always making him a traitor to the team or cheating on Rogue or whining about things.
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Posted: 22-Apr-2012 at 4:10pm |
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I do like the idea of reintroducing Gambit in a new way and playing up his sexy side. I'm just having trouble seeing how anything associated with aliens and stealing stuff in space would accomplish that. I would love to see someone try to make Gambit seem more real rather than portraying him like the obvious comic book-character he's always been. Losing the head gear was a good first step. Making him fight monsters, not so much.
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Posted: 22-Apr-2012 at 7:53pm |
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But he is a comic book character lol...he's a card charginf cajun raised by a mystical thieves guild ( which is at war with an even more mystical assassin's guild) and has had god-like power and time-travelled.
This is superhero comics, their premise isnt real lol
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Posted: 22-Apr-2012 at 8:16pm |
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he's the preeminent bad ass thief of the Marvel Universe,"
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Funny, I thought that title belonged to Black Cat.  I fall into the category of 'Tired of Remy with Rogue'. If this new solo title sees him split him off from her and the X-teams, I'd be more inclined to read it. It also depends on what he ends up stealing. If it's items that land him in larger trouble/conspiracies, then this could be fun. Although based on the promo, I'd be more interested in seeing him up against Fin Fang Foom than the Sh'iar.
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