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Sifo Dyas 
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 Topic: X-Men Members Part IIPosted: 18-Apr-2007 at 11:49am |
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Confirmed: Omerta Wraith Sunpyre Cargill Northstar Surge Hellion Mercury Warpath Anole Pixie Armor Caliban Hepzibah Blindfold Ink* Karma Sunspot Greymalkin Stepford Cuckoos (Celeste, Mindee & Phoebe) Magma Boom-Boom Domino Wolfsbane Vanisher Match Trance Indra Loa Doctor Nemesis Box Dr. Yuriko Takiguchi* Dr. Kavita Rao* Cipher Gentle Magik Onyxx Bling! Namor Cloak Dagger Danger* Cypher
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graveyardkiss
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Posted: 18-Apr-2007 at 11:52am |
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Why is Longshot not up there? He was a member of the team.
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Crutey Anth
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Posted: 18-Apr-2007 at 1:51pm |
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Agree Longshot and Karima should be up there, just because you are not a mutant doesn't mean you cant be an X-Man...like Juggernaut.
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Grantrs
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Posted: 18-Apr-2007 at 2:43pm |
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Thing is though, if you put Longshot and Juggernaut in you no longer have a reason to keep Lockheed out. Those of you who read the original thread will remember controversy over Lockheed's inclusion.
Edit: On further reflection you probably need to add more tiers than you've already got. Edited by Grantrs - 18-Apr-2007 at 2:47pm |
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Peter Luzifer
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Posted: 18-Apr-2007 at 3:12pm |
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It's not about them being mutants or not. The difference between Lockheed and Longshot, Juggernaut and Karima is that the later three act like team members whereas Lockheed does not. He seems more like a pet and only interacts with Kitty on a regular basis, protecting herfrom danger, etc. The other X-Men think of him no more than a pet - he doesn't take part in any briefing sessions, he is not asked for his opinion or input, he doesn't train in the danger room, etc.
Longshot, Juggernaut and Karima interact with the entire team, they have been given membership (Longshot) or even formally applied for one (Juggernaut), there's nothing doubting their status.
What next - are we going to debate whether Cerebra and the Blackbird are considered X-Men ?
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Sifo Dyas
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Posted: 18-Apr-2007 at 7:27pm |
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To avoid another long re-posting of the members again, I justed edited Longshot and Karima back into the confirmed list.
"Mirage" Danielle Moonstar briefly joined the X-Men for one mission in X-Men vol. 1 #102 (2000) if I am not mistaken.
That being said, "M" Monet St. Criox, briefly joined the X-Men for one mission as well in Uncanny X-Men #410 (2002).
Were Mirage and M members though???
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Monolith
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Posted: 18-Apr-2007 at 8:12pm |
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Mirage was a part-time member during the period from X-Men #100-109. Black Sun confirmed that she was officially recognized as a member of the team.
M was only on loan from X-Corporation for that mission, and was not a member.
Changeling was a member of the X-Men, recognized on the roster post-humously.
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Charisma: the fine line between winning them over with charm and ruling them by fear.
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Sifo Dyas
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Posted: 19-Apr-2007 at 6:39am |
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Updated the confirmed list again...
So its appears AXM's Nate Grey and Jean Grey's recruited EoD team (Omerta, Cargill, Sunpyre & Wraith) are still up for debate, as the general consensus about Lockheed is he's nothing more than a "pet" or occasional ally of the team and we just don't know enough about Armor yet...
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Redguard
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Posted: 19-Apr-2007 at 11:58am |
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I wouldn't consider X-Man a true member of the X-Men simply because at that time period it doesn't seem that anyone but Xavier had the authority to create the X-Men. If his word meant little, the team would not have disbanded so easily. So why should Cyclops and Phoenix, who weren't even members at the time, be able to create X-Men. Also, keep in mind, the disbandment was a ruse, so Xavier probably didn't consider the X-Men gone.
Then again, Marvel.com says FOUR members are missing from the X-Men #200 cover, and we know two are Thunderbird III and Warpath. Since Nate was in an X-Men book, he might be an X-Man? |
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Crutey Anth
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Posted: 20-Apr-2007 at 3:23am |
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I dont count X-Man either just because of Jean's whole 'You call yourself X-Man...start living up to it' stuff (not a direct quote.)
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“So that’s the deal. One-time offer. Take my hand. Let me help you. Let’s make a better world. What do you say?” |
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ChaosX
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Posted: 23-Apr-2007 at 5:33am |
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Can someone explain why Revanche should be on this list?
My understanding was that she simply tagged along with the team because she thought she was Psylocke, but never had official membership on her own.
Am I missing something? Edited by ChaosX - 23-Apr-2007 at 5:33am |
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Peter Luzifer
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Posted: 23-Apr-2007 at 6:54am |
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There is no such thing as "official" memberships.
And, during her stay. Revanche participated in several X-Men missions such as the Bloodties incident on genosha or the investigation of Empyrean's clinic.
If she just stayed at the mansion to sort out her identity, she wouldn't have needed to work with the team.
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ChaosX
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Posted: 24-Apr-2007 at 1:28am |
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I guess I would still disagree that Revanche was an X-Man, because technically she only turned up because she thought she was Psylocke and left pretty much as soon as she realized she wasn't.
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Peter Luzifer
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Posted: 24-Apr-2007 at 3:57am |
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Actually, she didn't leave because of learning her true ID, but because she was about to die of the Legacy Virus and she wanted to confront Nyorin a final time, before meeting with her lover Matsuo, who then mercy-killed her.
And, repeat, she wouldn't have needed to work with the X-Men on Psylocke/Kwannon unrelated missions during her stay, but she did.
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Sifo Dyas
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Posted: 05-Jun-2007 at 7:50pm |
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Are Caliban and Hepzibah going to be X-Men soon? If not why are their headshots listed in the upper left corner of Uncanny X-Men 487 with other members of the team? Has there ever been any non-members shown in the upper left corner of Uncanny before?
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EphemeristX
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Posted: 05-Jun-2007 at 8:03pm |
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What about Phoenix (the entity) and 'Skrullverine'? Both of them were impersonating other members, but both of them acted as X-Men for significant periods of time. Both of them believed they were who they were impersonating as well, unlike AoA's McCoy. Well, I know Phoenix did.
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Redguard
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Posted: 06-Jun-2007 at 2:22am |
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Skullverine was just spying on the X-Men, and wasn't a true X-Man.
And Phoenix II opens a whole can of awful worms and the whole Jean/Phoenix debate. |
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Please for the Love of He Above All Else, don't bring her into this...I beg you from the mercy of hte Living Tribunal...close that can of worms freeze them, burn them, pulverize them, turn them to dust with molecular manipulation, telekinetically rearrange their molecules, place in an adamantium cage, and then use a retcon bomb to take out of existence....
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"And someone's mom wants to eat all their souls. As a mom, I was offended. Moms should get to be role models, too."-Savant
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Posted: 07-Jun-2007 at 5:40pm |
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Yeah, but then someone will find the essence, fused into a cosmic egg, and she'll rise again!!!!!! LOL
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Monolith
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Posted: 07-Jun-2007 at 6:10pm |
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Collective Man lives. Nothing can ever truly be destroyed.
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Charisma: the fine line between winning them over with charm and ruling them by fear.
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Jindianajonz
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Posted: 08-Jun-2007 at 1:55am |
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For unconfirmed members, what about the Muir Island X-men? Except for Wolverine, Banshee, Polaris, and Forge are the only surviving X-men members still on earth following the Siege Perilous incident, which should give them the power to recruit more members. Shouldn't we include Legion, Moira, Sunder, and Amanda Sefton be considered for the "Unconfirmed" list?
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...either that or Wanda did it
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Monolith
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Posted: 08-Jun-2007 at 5:26am |
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Lord, no.
See this thread's precursor for some discussion of that. Also, I feel the need to note that Forge was never a member until after the Muir Island incident was over. http://www.uncannyxmen.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=245
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Jindianajonz
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Posted: 08-Jun-2007 at 10:34am |
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So when did Forge become a member? I assumed his involvement was during the Fall of the Mutants, but wasn't too sure since he seemed like more of an ally than a teammate during that storyline.
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...either that or Wanda did it
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Strong Guy
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Posted: 08-Jun-2007 at 11:50am |
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I wouldn't consider a Forge a member until after the Siege Perilous when he and Banshee were living in the X-Mansion's basement.
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And then he was briefly part of Storm's team when they went gallivanting off to Shi'ar space to rescue the professor. He dropped back to support status after the Gold and Blue teams were set up.
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