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Posted: 09-May-2009 at 5:29pm |
Whose the Best X-Villain? My's the best! (Sorry, I can't resist mocking bad grammar)
I've always had a soft spot for Sinister in my heart. I think it's because my first introduction to him was the Animated Series. The whole black lipstick/frilly cape/belted tights combo made him look like Dracula, Queen of the Desert. Or a dude trying to go in drag as Morticia Adams. Love it!
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Posted: 10-May-2009 at 9:58pm |
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Okay serious now I would say Mr. Sinister as "best at being evil" but Magneto for "most interesting and developed".
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Alex I do everything like a hawk.
This isn't DC Comics -- Marvel continuity doesn't die out if you don't water it often enough.
The whole Batman idea is a very childish response to childhood trauma.
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Posted: 10-May-2009 at 10:24pm |
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I don't know why but I'm going with Mesmero, just because he's only been a total @$$hole and nothing more.
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Posted: 15-May-2009 at 2:45am |
Kipe's right, I would say, despite her lack of appearances yet, Cassandra Nova devastated the X-men. 16 million mutants killed. Emma became diamond, Polaris went insane (again), Xavier Institute completely changed, Shi'ar nearly destroyed, Magneto lost an empire - lots of changes.
Anyway outside of that I'd definately put Mystique and Magneto up there. I was always a strong proponant of Apocalypse being one of the deadliest villians but I think his recent lack of interesting plots in comics that leads me to feel that right now (disregarding Messiah War right now since we don't know whats going to happen). But since XM:TAS Sinister has been pretty scary to me, his voice was amazing in that series and was enough to prove his creepiness
And recently I've begun to think, given the right motivation Spiral has the potential to lay some pretty big damage too. She's unpredictable, we don't know much about her motives, she's a powerful sorcecoress and we think she's insane - all the X-men need to do is p!$$ her off enough
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Posted: 28-May-2010 at 10:34am |
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I'd have to say Magneto, because he's against the X-Men but he's also helped them on many occasions. He's one of those characters that's constantly got you guessing. One week he may be trying to destroy all of humanity, and the next he may be helping to save it from some greater evil. I think Magneto's appeal is that he does some evil things and acts evil, but there is some good in him.
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Posted: 01-Jun-2010 at 5:08pm |
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Magneto is obviously the most iconic, but I've always loved Apocalypse. He's a little one-dimensional compared to some other villains, and his powers are never consistent, but unlike some of the others, he inspires fear and awe every time he pops up. AOA is still my favorite crossover event in X-Men history, as we truly get to see what the world would be like if Apocalypse was running the show.
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Posted: 19-Jun-2010 at 3:18am |
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Magneto is probably tops for all the given reasons.
Hellfire Club circa the Dark Phoenix saga. Devious, manipulative, cunning, ruthless, powerful, unlike Magneto, they'd rather rule from behind the scenes, which is infinitely more frightening.
The Trask Family, because they first exemplified humanity's fear and hatred of mutants and gave birth to the Sentinels. 'Nuff said.
My personal fave has always been Stryfe. Yes, he may have been throwing one heck of a temper tantrum, but he released his twisted hatred and misguided hostility for and towards his real parents, his adopted father Apoccy, and his 'brother' Cable upon a trembling world and left quite a few in ruins. Epic stuff.
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"Cyclops is a born leader, as good as I expected. He found one opening, one flaw in our defenses, and in a matter of seconds he had us on the ropes. I like that" - Sebastian Shaw, Uncanny #134
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Posted: 23-Jun-2010 at 1:59pm |
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Prodigy.
Consider that after M-Day, the New X-Men had a fight with Nimrod at Eagle Plaza. Instead of the kids having the decency and good sense to go ahead and die (why save Forge when he'd just get killed off 2 years later?), Prodigy blurts out a winning plan. But what that does when implemented is to send Nimrod back in time so that it can hook up with Stryker, so he can form his Purifiers.
I can't think of another X-associate as personally directly responsible for the deaths of so many of the people around him as Prodigy. He's in the same company as Cyclops, Wolverine, and Emma Frost, but Prodigy's definitely in the Top 5 of "team-killing jerks."
And sure, nobody realized what happened, but still.
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Posted: 24-Jun-2010 at 6:35pm |
Magneto, Mystique, Exodus, and Mr. Sinister would be my favorite villains. Magneto is the most iconic x-villain of all time. Mystique was always an interesting villain because you never really knew her true loyalties. Mr. Sinister was always cool becuase he was always experimenting on other mutants for some scientific plot. Exodus was the leader of The Brotherhood on one of my first stories that I read.
I always thought of Danger as an interesting X-Villain. The Danger Room becoming and A.I> and attacking the X-Men and capturing the students. I really enjoyed her in Astonishing X-MEn. Even though her run as a villain was very short.
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Posted: 11-Aug-2010 at 12:09am |
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Another vote for Mystique followed by Apocalypse, who gave us Archangel
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Posted: 11-Aug-2010 at 3:22am |
Sinister is my favorite villain, and I think the X-men's most dangerous. He's just so creepy - his plans involve screwing with your genetics, which to me is the worst thing anybody can possibly do. Cloning your dead lover to create a freaky child to experiment on is disgusting. He has haunted the X-men at every generation. He's also essentially immortal, so he's always a threat, and there's no need for lame resurrection stories like with Magneto. The winner for me is that he has a real presence, and he when he appears every few years, you know it's trouble. I can understand why those who hate the Jean/Phoenix retcon don't like him, though, although I don't really associate him with that.
Magneto can't be the greatest X-villain because half the time he's genuinely trying to be good. This causes him to be way too whiney and mopey half the time. Don't get me wrong, I luv 'em, but in a cuddly-teddy-bear kind of way, not a grand villain. And I've never really agreed with his way, since it's totally racist.
I agree that Mystique is the second greatest villain. She's not exactly powerful or overarching enough to rank at the top, but I almost call her my favorite.
Sebastian Shaw is great, too. Probably my third favorite.
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Posted: 12-Aug-2010 at 6:12am |
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Magneto, Mystique and Shaw are three of my favorites too, but I don't necessarily consider them villains -- just mutants who have their priorities straight. Shaw earns bonus points because he's an unabashed capitalist.
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Posted: 12-Aug-2010 at 9:36am |
Six, your move to Portland has corrupted your soul completely. Perhaps it's affecting that massive chip on your shoulder?
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Posted: 12-Aug-2010 at 11:18am |
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Nobody shows enough love to Arcade, and I'm sure its purely because he's the blatant inspiration for the now agonisingly awful Saw movies... he puts people in a situation where they have a chance to escape, but will die if they don't and gives people a chance to really take stock of their lives. Want to live? Fight your way out. Don't think you're really worth it in the long run? Just chuck yourself at the nearest obstacle, it's bound to be a trap in disguise.
Failing that, obviously Magneto and Mystique rock my world. Well, when Magneto's not busy bowing down to bloody Cyclops.
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Posted: 12-Aug-2010 at 8:44pm |
Originally posted by das_boot
Nobody shows enough love to Arcade, and I'm sure its purely because he's the blatant inspiration for the now agonisingly awful Saw movies... he puts people in a situation where they have a chance to escape, but will die if they don't and gives people a chance to really take stock of their lives. Want to live? Fight your way out. Don't think you're really worth it in the long run? Just chuck yourself at the nearest obstacle, it's bound to be a trap in disguise. |
Arcade is completely incompetent. Have any of his traps actually succeeded in killing a target,
ever? Who the hell hires this guy? He must be part of some assassins union.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2010 at 11:06pm |
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My favorite X-Villains have to be:
Spiral- she's so sociopathic and sadistic that she makes guys like Sabertooth and Apocalypse go "Good lord". How can someone that crazy and uncaring not be bad ass?
Apocalypse- His Darwinist views, ability to convince powerful mutants to join him, and his history of followers (which includes the Hulk) make En Sabah Nur one mutant not to be messed with
Sinister- taking into account that not only did he create Madalyn Prior, Nate Grey (alternate version yes, but still counts,) but he has also made perfect clones of all his Marauders more times then he can probably count, he's had his hand in the pasts of many different Xmen, most notably, the Summers Brothers.
Dark Beast- in his home reality AoA he was among the most feared mutants who served Apocalypse. Now looking at the fact that he became furry ON PURPOSE, was able to escape AoA, created the Morlocks using the genetics knowledge he was taught by AoA Sinister, and is by far more inteligent and stronger than the main time Beast, Dark Beast will always be a shadowed threat to the X-men
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Posted: 30-Aug-2010 at 11:15pm |
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To me Magneto will never be considered a villain. An extremist, no doubt, but his intentions are pure, he lived through the Holocaust, and since I myself am Jewish, he is instantly my favorite character. Now yes he has had his moments in the past where he "played" the villain, but that was only because his actions were mainly based upon revenge on some level. Magneto has mentored the New Mutants, has attempted to create havens for mutants (Asteroid M and Genosha) and is currently a member of X-Men.
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Posted: 12-Dec-2010 at 8:55pm |
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I've always been a huge fan of Sabretooth. He's just nasty. I love the just primal evil. He'd slice you to peices & then take those peices home for leftovers. I really hate that they killed him off. He's my #1 followed closely by Sinister, the master of manipulation.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2011 at 9:14am |
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I always thought Sinister had the potential to be the best, but after Claremont's run nobody used him correctly and his storylines went nowhere.
Now you may find this weird, but I have my reasons for this, I think the greatest villain, the most evil, manipulative one they've ever faced is...
PROFESSOR CHARLES XAVIER
Now, I don't mean when he was Onslaught or Dark Xavier, I mean everyday, ordinary Charles Xavier. I have my reasons, but I don't feel like writing it out tonight... maybe in the morning...
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Posted: 04-Jan-2011 at 7:42pm |
Like the one person said..... Professor Xavier is a Jerk!
I've always been partial to Apocalypse. Though Ronan the Accuser gets an honorable mention. Sure he rarely fights the Xmen, but I liked the times he did.
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Actually, the awesomeness of Kitty Pryde's statement not withstanding, my reasons deal with the fact that he is repsonsible for a majority of the X-Men's most powerful villains; Magneto, Cassandra Nova, Onslaught, Juggernaut, Vulcan, Bishop, Sabretooth's actions after Phalanx, and in my opinion Dark Phoenix. If you follow the retcons of Sage and Emma Frost then he is also responsible for a lot of the Hellfire clubs actions. He is also directly responsible for some of the most devastating actions in the Marvel Universe, once again related to those villains. He also has a lot of indirect ties to other actions and factions.
At least villains like Apocalypse and D'Ken were upfront about their goals, Xavier's actions make him not only a villain in my opinion, but a manipulator doing whatever he can to meet his goals while trying to seem "heroic".
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Hydra Controlled Wolverine (Or the Hand, whichever) He was fun. But I'm going to have to go with Chris Claremont during his Exiles/ New Exiles run. Nobody has done more damage. Except maybe Cassandra Nova... Oh, and can we get some love for the Shadow King? Muir Island Saga age Shadow King.
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Posted: 15-Dec-2011 at 4:07am |
Sinister, Sebastian Shaw, and Selene are my picks, all for diffrerent reasons. Sinister is, in my opinion, not really a villain. He's a scientist who is utterly unconcerned with morality and compassion. Sebastian Shaw is the ultimate corrupt businessman, which always makes for a great story. His real strength is not in his mutation, but in his intelligence and ruthlessness. Selene is powerful, understimated, and pure evil. She will eat you. Literally. Apocalypse and Spiral are great, too, for all of the obvious reasons.
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Cassandra Nova strikes me as one of the most devastating villains the X-Men have ever dealt with, if only because her brief tenure as the premiere X-Villain changed the franchise in such a way that we'll probably never un-feel the effects. The now-public identity of the X-Men comes to mind, for example. Oh, and she was probably the only X-Villain that was all that creepy, and her mission / purpose was so pure and sinister that it actually gave me pause when I first read her. I had to stop and ask, "Is there anything this monster won't do?"
Of course, that the X-Men have become a less secure organization rather than a more secure one since Cassandra Nova's highly-destructive escapade says something about them in general, but I don't want to wax philosophical about that at the moment.
I'd say that Magneto has been a great villain much of the time, but sometimes I find him hard to buy. Like, I feel as though writers aren't quite sure of what to make of Magneto a lot of times, because he's highly complex, and some people just don't have the mental function available to them in order to pen such complexity. Still, when I think of X-Villains to be respected for all they've done, Magneto comes to mind.
That brings me to Emma. I don't think I'd qualify her as one of the X-Men's greatest villains by any means, but I will say that back during her mustache-twirling, whip-cracking days, she was refreshingly sinister (as was the rest of the Hellfire Club). While she never really succeeded in her evil plans, I think a lot of it was because Emma Frost and the other members of the club were "evil" in a very realistic way. Like, killing Butter Rum (rest in peace, angel bb), running as the queen bee of an ultra-powerful secret society, and being an expert in white-collar crime--all very cool stuff, but she'd probably read as a better villain in book form than in comic-book form. I mean, imagine an Emma Frost in the context of something like Atlas Shrugged or some other ridiculously long novel. Definitely a lot of room for character discussion and complexity.
Selene, on the other hand, was thin soup. She always struck me as a character who should have been a high-profile villain given her power and general creep-level. To me, she's the big-bad that never really was. Even Necrosha was generally underwhelming, like everything Selene has ever done. You'd think that being so old would give Selene a greater intellect and strategic capacity, but, no. She had the brain of a caveman / witch and all the villainy of an angry child.
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all the villainy of an angry child.
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