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Posts: 852 		  Quote Cable Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Dec-2011 at 7:22am
Cant believe I'm saying it but I have to agree with DC on this one. I am an adult and I want to read comics written for adults, not ones watered down to appeal to all ages. We absolutely need kids to read comics, but that's why there needs to be things like Marvel Adventures. If DC doesn't have anything like that, its as simple as not letting your kids read DC. Which as a Marvel zombie I am perfectly fine with Big%20smile

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Posts: 1080 		  Quote grief Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Dec-2011 at 7:55am
Doesn't DC have a kids line? Johnny DC or something like that? I mean, why are you giving a 7 year old Red Hood when there's the awesomeness of Tiny Titans out there?
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I agree in a sense. Not all comics should be simple enough for kids to get into but then also it shouldn't be that all the main universe titles are to the point of a young person having to wait till they are teenagers or adults to read. Since I'm pretty sure a lot of us fans started reading younger than teen years and the comics did big important things that didn't rely on sex and cheesecake and uber blood and violence to tell the story. Grim and gritty and such is good stories to an extent. DC has been battling that line for years. They say they are going to lighten up stories and not be so dark but as soon as they say it they do the opposite and off a character in a big way and start up new arcs with grim and gritty and sex and violence. Again not bad things, as I do want comics that fit more with what us adults want in some cases. But there are ways to make a comic fit for an adult and a child. Look at Pixar movies. They are animated aimed at kids, but they also make it so that an adult can readily enjoy it too which most of the time I hear more adults gushing about Up or Toy Story and the like than kids.

Well I think with the 7 year old thing, the person was trying to make a point and wanted to go 'big' with that point making. They could have spoken of the Starfire thing themself but when a adult fan says things about the cheesecake or the sexism or such people boo them off the stage like a bad comedian. But if you have a child react to the hero they love and put it out there, people will listen to a child. Not that I'm gonna say that this woman was using her child that way as I can't know that lol.
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When I was a youngling I didn't want to read comics that were sanitized for my protection & I don't reckon the new generation of youngling nerds would either. It's moot though because (aside from Tiny Titans, which is an out of continuity comedy) there isn't a an alternative source for the adventures of Starfire. If you want to read about Starfire your only option is Red Hood & the Outlaws.

I get that this Starfire is supposed to have serious mental issues from her life as a Gordarian slave. The old Starfire had the same origin & overcame that trauma with the help of likeable friends. Her compassion was juxtaposed with Raven's repressed emotions. When she had sex, it showed the Gordarians couldn't break her warm Tamarian spirit. When the current Starfire has sex, it comes off as a loveless pathological symptom of PTSD. Red Hood & Red Arrow come off as exploiting her joyless nymphomania instead of getting her counselling. That's even before considering that the book uses her as a living T&A gag.
Making Starfire grapple with her past of sexual slavery in depth could add some compelling Lisbeth Salander-ish facets to her. If that's what they're going for, she shouldn't be playing second fiddle to an unlikeable scumbag duo. It's not the concept of Starfire being a libertine that's the problem, it's how it's been presented.
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>_<'  It's Gordanian and Tamaranian....
 
But yeah I agree with your point.  This is rewinding to her as she was when she first came to earth and retelling it.

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