X-Men vs. Avengers

How about this one:

Originally posted by Magnetolives2 This is really broad.

Phoenix vs. Sentry would be awesome.  Everytime he has a psychological breakdown his dark side emerges and kills Phoenix/Jean...which leads to Phoenix/Jean resurrecting herself, having an emotional overload, unleashing her dark side and killing Sentry....thus he resurrects himself and the cycle repeats.

With those two wackos locked in battle, I think that the X-men might actually be able to pull out a victory.  The Avengers have the numbers, and the raw power advantage, but when the X-men are working together as a well oiled unit, they are pretty impressive.  Throw in the unified front of Cyclops, Xavier, and Magneto calling the shots, and I'm not so positive the Avengers could win on sheer scale advantage alone.

Wait a minute, I forgot about Wanda....never mind.  Avengers FTW.

You Lie!  Sentry can to resurrect himself, I have seen him do it with my own eyes at least twice!  That's my story and I'm stickin to it untill further evidence to the contrary is provided.   

 Unfortunately, while theorized that Sentry is "more powerful than any other superhero" this has NEVER been shown on-panel.  Even the OHOTMU a to z HC Vol 10, the "gospel" of the MU,  does not list him as such.  He is "just" another Thor with slightly enhanced speed, vision, hearing and the power of flight.  Again, he is supposed to have mental powers, but he just seems mental...

Well then "Oops" on you!

Biased? Us?

Can we help it if the X-Men have Phoenix- who achieved godhood? In comparison to those second-stringers in the Avengers, I mean, like Thor, Gilgamesh, Hercules, Ares, etc etc. Pfft. Second-rate at best!

Onslaught!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! techniquely an X-Man -oh and X-Man who can take on Sentury to.

Magneto would easilt beat Iron man, Warmachine, Vision, and break Caps sheild. Storm could hold off Thor for awhile at least. Armor Could take out Yellowjacket, Pheonix would take out Sentry, Wolverine and Colossus could possibly take out the Hulk or try to slow him down at least along with the Juggernaut, Nightcrawler could take out Spidey just as long as he does'nt let Spidey punch him. Rouge would fight Ms. M. (we all know how that will end).    But you could just have Prof X. Emma and Jean take them all out with telepathy.

thats a good point, newbie.

Lets assume that everyone has psychic blockers on both sides. and all of the limitless energy manipulators (phoenix, vulcan, Silver Surfer, Sentry, Dr. Strange, X-Man, Captain Marvell, Hope, etc. ) were teleported by Dr. Strange to a magical room where only they can fight each other.

That leaves the might of the X-Men verse the Avengers (btw I'm lumping in Fantastic 4 aswell, Avengers gonna need all the help they can get) . For the sake of this debate, we'll say Thor is at his regular power levels (without the OdinForce).

The Avengers would focus fire and quickly "take out" Some of the X-Men's power houses, including Magneto, Sunfire, Chamber, and Namor. They know who pose the greatest threat and are very likely to already have trained to take out Magneto and Namor.

X-Men under Cyclops's tacticle leadership, would be able to take down many of the Avengers with few losses. CannonBall and Storm would be able to give Thor a run for his money, With Storm turning Thor's "Savage Lightning" against him and calling on the forces of nature to turn on Thor. CannonBall could deal some good hits to Thor, while being impervious to his hammer swings. To finish off Thor Havoc and Cyclops would fire off a few beams to catch him off guard, so Cannonball could deliver the final blow.

With Archangel, CannonBall, Storm, Hellion, Polaris, Magma, Thunderbird II, Siryn, and M in the skies, I think the X-Men will have a superior air advantage over the remaining Avengers Falcon, IronMan, Ms. Marvel, Wasp, and Vision. Magneto would of atleast taken out WarMachine before he went down, but I'm sure IronMan would have a backup emp/proof system he invented that he could activate to bring himself back into the fight. Until Colossus throws Shadowcat through Ironman, at that point Tony Stark is out of the fight. But repeating the fastball special on Vision would not work, since Vision and Kitty would have phase interference, most likely putting Shadowcat out of the fight.

The ground combat situation will be a little different. Avengers will have the upper advantage with key powerhouses like Invisible Woman, Luke Cage, Thing, Johnny Storm, Captain America, Hawkeye, Giant Man, Black Panther, Spider-Man, Tigra, IronFist, WonderMan, Hercules, and Ares. These seasons vets could take on most of the X-Men in one on one Combat. What the X-Men lack in experience (Wolverine can't be everywhere) they make up for it in numbers.

Rockslide, Colossus, Dust, Wolverine, Marvel Girl, Armor, Cyclops, Beast, Havoc, Iceman, Hellion, Surge, Strong Guy, Multiple Man, X-23, Husk, Northstar, NightCrawler, ThunderBird, Warpath, Wolfsbane, Psylocke, Mercury, Gambit, Fantomex, Deadpool, Domino, Anole, Greymalkin, Darwin, Sunspot, and Magik would all be fighting on the ground. And with MultipleMan causing so much chaos with his dupes, the Avenger forces would be overrun. Hawkeye not being able to shoot the dupes fast enough. The near invunerable ones like Hercules, Ares, Luke Cage, Invisible Woman, Thing, and WonderMan would have to be taken down by unconventional methods (for example: Hellion throwing Luke cage a mile straight up in the air , where he lands, he wont be in fighting condition). Reed Richards would be hard to pin down, until Iceman freezes him.

Ares would pose a very significant threat. Taking out many members before being defeated in combat impart thanks to the X-Men's superior energy blasters (Cyclops, Havoc, Surge, Polaris, Marvel Girl, and Magma). First Invisisble woman would have to be taken out, or else energy attacks would be useless. Gambit charging up her personal shield and having it explode would do the trick. Polaris would make sure Ares didn't have access to his metal weaponry and armor, while he, Hercules, and Thing engaged Colossus, Rockslide, Strong Guy, M, Husk, Wolverine, X-23, Warpath, and Armor in combat. All a distraction while the energy blasters pick their targets.

Right when  the X-Men are near victory, Captain calls in the last resort. Bruce Banner is launched out of an airplane and lands as Hulk. Quickly taking out the "invunverable" Colossus and exploding Rockslide, Cyclops calls for the "Gamma Tactic."  After the defeat from Hulk last time, the X-Men have done some intensive training and begin surround the Hulk and going in for quick hits to slowly wear him down while avoiding as many hits as possible. Hulk isn't slowing down, and is just getting angrier with these flies. A few thunderclaps and more X-Men are down. Finally Cyclops would call in his plan B, Storm and any TK'ers left would live Hulk off the ground, and leave him hovering 30 feet in the air. Northstar and Logan would lend their powers to Rogue, who would then fly into the Hulk's Back, sticking him with her new claws, and draining the life force out of him until he is too weak to maintain his Hulk persona.

X-Men Win.