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    Posted: 17-Dec-2009 at 4:52pm
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Wow! That's actually good news, not great news anything but good. It means that with Josh Schwartz and Bryan Singer directing this movie might actually be decent, which makes it better then Origins and X-3 so yay. Of coure with Singer involved we might have Wolverine show up randomly and the movie will be all about him but maybe he'll actually let the focus be on all the characters this time.

 

I don't know. I'm excited for this movie now. Schwartz is an amazing writer(don't watch Gossip Girl, he's not involved, I'm talking of Chuck on NBC!) and Singer is a good director, who unlike Ratner, gets the that X-Men aren't all action.

 

I think this also means Emma might be a teacher and not a student! Fingers crossed on that one! But yes, First Class might actually be good!

 

Then again Fox is still involved....


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I really don't think they should actually do the five original characters. Comics fans might find some interest in it, but the mainstream would never buy into 5 WASPS which include Iceman and Angel. They didn't in the 60's, and they definitely won't now.
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lol... good point Andrew
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Not to mention it'd totally disregard movie continuity (and by movie, I mean the first two -- maybe three and not Origins).  Iceman's already been listed as an underclassman in the first flick and Angel as one in the third. 

Cyke, Jean, Hank and Ororo would be cool.  And we could toss some other unused mutant in there for number five.  Uh... Banshee? 


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Banshee would be a good pick, as would Havok or Polaris. I'm hoping Singer can infuse those core four with more personality than he did in the first two films. Maybe he could use this opportunity to explore some Punk Storm!

It probably doesn't need to be said, but I'm totally excited for this. Singer is a formidable director.
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Yay! Good news!  I'm excited for this film now too.  If they want to follow the continuity set up in Wolverine Origins, I get giddy at the prospects of a teenage Emma, Scott, Jean triangle.  Maybe bring in the Hellfire Club as a rival school or something.
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I think Polaris would be a really great choice, especially if they play up her heritage as an angel in the film. I might include Thunderbird as a comparison to Wolverine.
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I have a feeling x-3 continuity and Origins continuity might be going out the window. Singer has the ego to do it and Fox will probably let him and just say the origins are their own movie.
 
Anyway look like my excitement has dimed as quick as it sparked:
 
 
Josh Schwartz is out and the guy who wrote Street Kings is in....boo. Watch Chuck and tell me this guy wouldn't be perfect for the X-Men movies! And know we have the guy who wrote the cliched ridden, bad dialogue, bad character development street kings in?
 
Excitement still a bit high because of Singer but if you take away geekdom, I don't exactly love X-Men 1 too much now a days, only because it doesn't live up to it's potential(a movie called X-Men which was all about Wolverine. Even a movie description would something like "Wolverine and Charles Xavier lead a group of mutants to save the world from the evil Magneto) or something along those lines...Love X-2 but...booo, Josh Schwartz is a terrific writer and he writes good teen too. Already I'm not liking Singer's choice and I free X-23 might be coming on boad and she'll probably be played by Hugh Jackman.
 
Here is the new plot(real a vague early idea of it):
The story is still in the early stages of development but will deal with the first meeting of Charles Xavier and Magneto and involve the creation of the Xavier Institute for Higher Learning, the school masquerading as the headquarters of the X-Men," Heat Vision also reports.
Not to excited for that either. The first meeting of Charles and Magneto should take place in Magneto's origin film or even Xavier's. First Class should be an origin film for the students.
 


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I don't see Singer disregarding the continuity he established with his other X Movies.  If Fox is worried about no wolvine in this film, I have a feeling they'll use a lower teir marvel cash cow in Gambit.
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I think he'll keep his stuff in it but I don't see X-3 or Wolverine Origins being kept canon.

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I would be willing to put money on my belief that TCF and/or Singer will NOT intentionally contradict anything in the any of the previous movies. Singers not dumb, and he knows that having contradictions in the canon will upset many people. I fully expect to see Emma in First Class, picking up from where Wolverine. This early in the movie franchise, I highly doubt that any of the movies will be uncanonized. Singer is also not overtly arrogant, and won't throw stuff out just because it's not his.

I really hope this doesn't interfere with the TV series he's supposed to be directing with Bryan Fuller.

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Originally posted by Laudo

I would be willing to put money on my belief that TCF and/or Singer will NOT intentionally contradict anything in the any of the previous movies. Singers not dumb, and he knows that having contradictions in the canon will upset many people. I fully expect to see Emma in First Class, picking up from where Wolverine. This early in the movie franchise, I highly doubt that any of the movies will be uncanonized. Singer is also not overtly arrogant, and won't throw stuff out just because it's not his.

I really hope this doesn't interfere with the TV series he's supposed to be directing with Bryan Fuller.
 
To be fair he hasn't really followed his own canon from movie to movie, just look at Kitty. And Singer wants an older Emma, he'll get an older Emma, just like Kitty was made younger, then a bit older for the X-Men films. Kitty, like Emma was never named. Only fans have taken it to be Emma Frost, in the credits isn't she just called Emma? Even if it was the credits, they never called said "Hey Emma Frost!", so I fully expect that Emma to go bye-bye. Singer has stayed he wants an older actress and he has enough clout to get a talented older actress to play her. In fact I'll bet money on it with you Tongue(or at least like something fan fictiony like I have to post a special Laudo is pretty story if I lose)
 
ANd let's not forget Wolverine contradicts stuff in X-Men 1 and 2, say Cyclops age(he would be in his late 30's, early 40's if we're following that movie).  Fox doesn't care about canon, Fox cares about money. Keeping Singer happy means he stays on as director, means that the movie will likely do better then Wolverine, which did no where near their expectations(if you look at the other Summer blockbusters, it pales in comparison). After two flunks(not really flops as they did make money), they want to bring back the golden boy of X-Men and 2.
 
And let's not forget Singer did take Superman 3 and 4 out of canon. And yes those movies suck but hey so did X-Men 3 and Wolverine, lol.
 
And I don't think I would interfer with his project with FUller. He's probably directing a pilot with Bryan FUller but he won't direct the series. TV series have rotating directors and a lot of times, pilots even have special, big time directors. I'm sure he'll executive producer but not be hands on like he is with House. But I didn't even know about this project! Sounds like it should be awesome(I miss Pushing Daisies)

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Well after the terrible Wolverine movie, I really have very little intrest in any new X-men movies especially not a prequel which means a lame villain as well.
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I just hope that Singer makes a good X-Men origins movie that works within the established continuity of the films, sin hopes that eventually Marvel can get the X-men licenses back and they can do a proper reboot of the franchise at that time. 


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@Xtreme - The word is that he's going to be some kind of full-time director, with other directors being in charge of individual episodes. I'm excited too. I'm going to read the book the show is based on, even though I have no time whatsoever.
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I really don't think Fox cares about making Singer or any directors happy.
I'm very meh about a prequel anyway. If it was an X-Men movie that wasn't based on copious retcons, I might be interested in this. Get back to me when it's a proper X-Men 4 written by Bryan Fuller directed by Jean Pierre-Jenut with costumes by Colleen Atwood.
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Here is the latest news from Singer:
 
This is the formative years of Xavier and Magneto, and the formation of the school and where there relationship took a wrong turn," Singer said. "There is a romantic element, and some of the mutants from 'X-Men' will figure into the plot, though I don't want to say which ones. There will be a lot of new mutants and a great villain."
 
So it sounds more like a Xavier/Magneto origin film...

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Well, I guess we can count Storm out. Singer is not a fan.
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Originally posted by XtremeOne1

Here is the latest news from Singer:
 
This is the formative years of Xavier and Magneto, and the formation of the school and where there relationship took a wrong turn," Singer said. "There is a romantic element, and some of the mutants from 'X-Men' will figure into the plot, though I don't want to say which ones. There will be a lot of new mutants and a great villain."
 
So it sounds more like a Xavier/Magneto origin film...
If it's about Magneto and Xavier, I'm hoping we get to see an early incarnation of Magneto's Brotherhood of Mutants. They could redo Toad so he doesn't suck, bring back Mystique, maybe reuse the Blob, and include Mastermind, Vanisher, Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch. With a cast of villains like that, the movie wouldn't even need the X-Men.
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Toad will always suck. Movie Toad was actually the least lame version of him.
Is this "romantic element" a love triangle that spoils Xavier's and Magneto's working relationship? That'd be pretty trite. I recall that Singer wanted to have Emma Frost be an ex-lover of Xavier's played by Sigourney Weaver in X-Men 3, so maybe that's back in? Or is the love interest Gabrielle Haller, which I'd be cool with so long as it also features Magneto dropping a mountain on Baron Von Strucker and stealing his gold.
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Toad as Magneto's sniveling sycophant could be a lot of fun, if done like it was in the old X-Men comics. Magneto treated him like absolute garbage! It was hilarious. They could have Ian McKellen delivering bitchy backslaps throughout the entire movie. 
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Toad will always suck. Movie Toad was actually the least lame version of him.
Is this "romantic element" a love triangle that spoils Xavier's and Magneto's working relationship? That'd be pretty trite. I recall that Singer wanted to have Emma Frost be an ex-lover of Xavier's played by Sigourney Weaver in X-Men 3, so maybe that's back in? Or is the love interest Gabrielle Haller, which I'd be cool with so long as it also features Magneto dropping a mountain on Baron Von Strucker and stealing his gold.


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Well, I guess we can count Storm out. Singer is not a fan.


God I hope so.
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Originally posted by EvilMonkeyPope

I recall that Singer wanted to have Emma Frost be an ex-lover of Xavier's played by Sigourney Weaver in X-Men 3, so maybe that's back in?


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Really?  Why?  Sigourney is a brilliant actress, and Emma was Xavier's lover in "Ultimate", which worked out great since it was while Ultimate was still well-written.  :)

Still, since X-3 ended with Moira, I wonder if she'll be the love interest.

Ah well, whoever it is, I'm still very interested in this movie.  Honestly I still like the idea of Scott facing off against Sinister best, but I don't think we have the technology to make Sinister look, well, sinister in live action.  I really just hope Scott doesn't come off as dull as he did in the Singer movies.  He deserves more than that. 

And Xavier and Magneto's friendship is one of the most interesting stories in X-Canon if done right.  They've got so much material to work with!
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I like Sigourney Weaver a lot, but I don't think she'd be the ideal Emma. More importantly, I think making Emma Xavier's ex-lover is just as stupid an idea as making her Silver Fox's sister. i don't care that it was in Ultimate first.
I don't Mr. Sinister is a difficult character to replicate on film.  He's basically an updated version of Dracula. White make-up, red contact lenses, a red diamond bindi, black lipstick, blue pleather with a metallic sheen, a bigger red diamond, and a chape that was put through a shredder are all that's required. T-1000 effects would show battle damage and shapeshifting. Tim Curry could've pulled it off easily back when he was the Lord of Darkness.
I like the idea of having Moira be the love interest. Maybe then we could have the kids fight Proteus!
Do you think that they're going to go for a new yong cast or de-age the original actors with creepy CGI? Or will they just set it a year before X-Men 1 so they don't have to really worry about it?
Will this be THE movie that explains why Sabretooth went from Liev Schreiber to Tyler Mane without his memories of Wolverine?
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