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The Horse and His Boy (here lie spoilers)

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    Posted: 09-Jan-2010 at 11:59pm
Since Laudo is far too busy paranoia-killing people and talking about FRIENDS to start this discussion about C.S. Lewis's The Horse and His Boy, I guess I will. Sorry, Laudo.

Hmmm, where to begin... Okay! This is another Narnia book that I'd never before read, and since it has never been adapted into a film, the story was totally fresh to me. Taking place shortly after the events of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, this installment tells the tale of Shasta, the adopted child of a fisherman in a savage land called Calormen. Upon learning he is about to be sold into slavery, Shasta runs away from home and meets an arrogant talking horse named Bree who makes a deal with Shasta to head to Narnia together. Along the way, they meet another runaway human-and-horse pair, only of the female variety: the girl's name is Aravis and she's fleeing an exchanged marriage on the back of the talking mare Hwin. Along the way, this motley party encounters attacking lions, political intrigue, warfare and the benevolent Pevensie royalty.

We get an interesting cast of characters here. Shasta is courageous and honest (to the point that he admits to himself he doesn't care when he learns his father isn't really his father, a scene I really liked), Bree is a twit with an inflated ego stemming from being the only horse he knows who can talk (much like Ryan Reynolds being the coolest guy at Shenanigan's in Waiting), and Aravis is a powerful, defiant female of questionable moral certitude.

What's most notable to me about this book is the recurring theme of arranged marriages and slavery. In addition to the flight of the betrothed Aravis (whose name is strikingly familiar to the French word for greed, a quality she neither embodies nor loathes), we find Queen Susan suffering the relentless pursuit of Prince Rabadash, who wants her so badly that he'd just as soon have her as a slave as he would a wife. Since much of our discussions of this series has focused on the role of women in the Narnia books, I think it's worth mentioning that, of those we've read thus far, The Horse and His Boy seems the most aware of the disparate treatment women often receive and how they can be reduced to commodities. Consider this exchange upon the first meeting of Shasta and Aravis:

Shasta: Why, it's only a girl!
Aravis: And what business of yours is it if I'm only a girl? You're only a boy: a rude, common little boy -- a slave probably, who's stolen his master's horse.

Aravis is one of the first females we've seen in this series to object to the type of language Shasta uses when discussing women. She picks up on his implication and calls him out on it. Lewis also creates a parallel between betrothal and slavery with the duel plights of Shasta and Aravis. Susan is lucky enough to embody both.

Another interesting theme of this book is the divine intervention the protagonist's witness at the hands of Aslan. Throughout the book, they are attacked by several lions, but in each case, the lion attacks propel them to meet or move faster. Because the lions are obviously the agents driving forward the story's plot, it comes as no surprise when we learn that the lions were all actually Aslan, forcing the characters to succeed where they otherwise would have failed. As the book's God-figure, this creates a clear analog for the concept of divine intervention. Personally, my view is that if there is indeed a God, he would either intervene all the time or never at all. I don't see much point of doing any degree in-between: humans either have free will or they don't. In this way, Aslan almost behaves more like the amoral X-baddie Apocalypse in that he creates situations in which only the strong survive.
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Great insights on the recurring women discussion and slavery as well.

However, I think there is an aspect of your divine intervention thoughts that is missing that was addressed by Lewis in Prince Caspian and was a part of the huge correlation between that book and the Bible. Namely (and without discussing too much of that book or either narrative here), the principal and theological concept of dispensationalism. That's just a big fancy word for the view that holds and recognizes that God doesn't (nor does He have to) act the same way at all times. It recognizes that the further from creation man comes, God gives more concrete revelation (principally written) and less need for direct revelation, thus creating periods where He acts differently to humans. Even Jewish tradition recognizes the difference that God speaks to Abraham directly and yet after the temple was established, God no longer spoke aloud as to Abraham. This also carries over to dealing with man's sin. For instance, God doesn't flood (and kill) everybody every time they sin.

All that to say that God doesn't act, nor does He need to act the same way. God has a free will, as well. Lewis says as much in TLTWATW: "He's not a tame lion," and thus cannot be tamed by our expectations of Him. Later in Prince Caspian, the meeting in the forest between Lucy and Aslan holds the key and perhaps the primary theme of the book.

I forget the wording, but Lucy asks to effect :Why didn't you come roaring to the rescue, like you did last time?
Aslan answers: "Things never happen the same way twice, dear one."

For Lewis, and for his childhood audience, it answers the honest and early Christian question, "Why is there a difference between the Old Testament and New Testament?" And I can't help but think that it's a fairly interesting point of view. I can see that God both has a free will and doesn't have to do ANYTHING, and also that He doesn't treat all people from different generations the same way, because each generation has its own circumstances.

Yeah, and beleive it or not, that's an abridged version of what I was going to communicate in the Prince Capsian topic, but didn't.



Oh yeah, and there's another parallel between this narrative and a narrative in the Bible. Any thoughts?


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Evan, you're Sabrina now?? And what happened to your old quote!? RIP Brittany Murphy :(

I really liked this story not only because of the horses, but also the role of Aravis. I love how independent she is and how she rejects the whole role of marrying when she's only like 13 and doesn't care about the frivolous things that her friend Lasaraleen is obsessed with. Also, a really funny line by Lasaraleen is when she tells her servants that, "Anyone I catch talking about this young lady will be first beaten to death and then burned alive and then be kept on bread and water for six weeks."

Magnetolives, I'm not sure what other narrative in the Bible you're comparing this with, care to share?

Evan, I think that this example of divine intervention didn't take away Shasta or Aravis' free will because even though Aslan is chasing them they had the choice to go faster or to get beaten up.

What I thought was interesting was when Aslan scratches Aravis' back stripe for stripe for what her servant girl was punished..if Aslan is the Jesus figure, why would he punish her in the Old Testament way, an eye for an eye? He's supposed to have paid for all her sins on the cross so I think in this part, Lewis is exhibiting a kind of vindictive type of morality, giving her a taste of her own medicine.
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  Quote Magnetolives2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2010 at 5:21am
Originally posted by ReturnofthePhoenix



Magnetolives, I'm not sure what other narrative in the Bible you're comparing this with, care to share?


It's particularly with the character Shasta, and the host of similarities and comparisons with a biblical character who also was delivered to a foster home by a crib in water, who turned away from his foster country, and led people across a desert, and eventually ruled his true people.
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