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  Quote Savant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jan-2011 at 8:14pm
Cable, it's not my job to disprove your hypothesis. It's your job to formulate a working hypothesis that is testable and then conduct tests to evaluate its utility. Do you realize how vague your hypothesis is?
 
h1 = "Almost all people feel a great deal of empathy towards some animals."
 
What does "almost all" "a great deal" and "some" mean? If I see the turtle struggling on the ground and not spit on it as I walk over it, instead of crushing it, does that qualify as a display of empathy?
 
For you to then assert that I have to disprove your hypothesis, well, you've pretty much abandoned the scientific method in its entirety.
 
And you seem to be teetering on the brink of romanticizing primitive cultures. I would point to examples of primitive cultures acting in decidedly unempathetic ways, but you'd just dismiss those, since apparently singular examples that disprove your hypothesis don't matter.
 
BTW, while Gould and Dawkins generally do disagree on the utility of gene-centered evolutionary theory, Gould conceded roughly 30 years ago that Dawkins' deterministic view was useful and appropriate for explaining altruism, a concept that Gould too struggled to explain. So, unless he changed his mind later, Gould isn't opposed to its application for this particular subject.
 
And if you are working from the premise that human beings never adopt memes (not genes) that are evolutionary disasters, you're just wrong. We've accepted many disasterous memes despite their having terrible evolutionary consequences.
 
And cynical, really? That seems rude. You asked for feedback and I attempted to give a considered response. Your hypothesis is untestable and void for vagueness.

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  Quote Cable Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jan-2011 at 10:59pm
I wasn't really planning on setting up experiments and publishing my results in a scientific journal, but rather discussing something on a comic book forum. That's why I didn't go through the scientific method and develop a testable hypothesis. And I never "asserted that [you] have to disprove [my] hypothesis," but it was clear you were trying to and I was letting you know your attempts were missing the point.

Obviously we aren't going to get any further in a discussion of this and you are getting upset. I'll just drop it and concede to your points on genetics.





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  Quote JanO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-May-2011 at 8:09am
Okay, so this thread has been cleaned out, meaning that all of topic posts, witty banter and "well, that's inretesting" posts have been deleted.
 
For a while there was some interesting stuff here, and most of it survived here. Feel free to continue, but keep it on track.
 
You friendly neighbourhood Censor,
 
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Dunh dunh DUNH!!!!  An interesting new form of proof that the Vikings did indeed come to North America!
 

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  Quote EvilMonkeyPope Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Nov-2011 at 10:39pm

It was pointed out to me that a mutagen introduced into a person's cells wouldn't cause a useful mutation like it does in fiction. Without additional energy to generate complete structures, it'd just become cancer. So what kind of additional energy supply could be used so the subject would develop additional mass like a dewclaw? How would it be delivered?

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