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  Quote Binaryan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Editor X: New team challenge
    Posted: 22-Sep-2010 at 10:46pm
Currently the X-Men is a massive mosaic of mutants huddling for safety in San Francisco.  Dozens of characters flit about, yet only a handful have recurring roles in the core X-Books and several major characters have been reduced to little more than occasional cameos during big fight scenes and maybe a little focus in an anthology book here and there.

The X-Editorial is looking for a pitch for a new group book that will collect some of these "odds and ends" and put them in a new team book.  You can select from any character who is not currently part of the regular occurring cast in X-MEN, X-MEN: LEGACY, NEW MUTANTS, X-FACTOR, X-FORCE or UNCANNY or has their own solo series.  You must use a minimum of 6 characters.

Just to get your juices flowing, here are some major characters who fit the bill:

Iceman, Dazzler, Northstar, Havok, Polaris, Rachel Summers, Colossus, Shadowcat, Sunfire, Warpath, Domino, Husk, Chamber, Dust, Anole, Rockslide, Hellion, Surge... to name a few.
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  Quote Gibbering Fool Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Sep-2010 at 12:51am

Well first up I would bring back title staring the X-kids.  Young X-Men has too much of a stigma about it, so I would return to fan favoutite title New X-Men.  I would include all the X-Kids in this; Dust, Mercury, Rockslide, Anole, Surge, Hellion, Prodigy, Elixir, Loa, Indra, Greymalkin, Cipher, Pixie and Trance.  Ink is still in a coma (plus we all hate him), Hope is off in her own series with the Five Lights, and X-23 is off doing her thing. 

Because of the large cast I would make it so that each arc focuses on three or four characters each time. 
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  Quote Peter Luzifer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Sep-2010 at 10:00am

I like the young/new X-men concept, though I'm actually hoping that we will see more of them in Legacy.

I'm suprised that not more people have posted ideas for this open challenge. Anyway, here goes my take. Probably I'd wait with releasing it about 6-12 months until Generation Hope/FiveLights has failed, I don't want to swamp the market with too many new books.
 
For lack of a better title, let's call it "X-People" (working title). With the X-Men being recognised by Steve Rogers as heroes, and the mutants no longer having to operate as a clandestine group of outcasts, Cyclops decides that they need a team of media-friendly heroes who will raise the public's opinion of mutants in general.
 
This team will be completely autonomous, not connected to the X-Men (so it won't include the most popular and mainstay X-Men members) and will have multiple bases. One in Los Angeles, another in New York and one in Washington. X-People will go on some missions involving helping either mutants or general humans, but they'll also do lots of charity work. They are often in the tabloids and yellow press, with some gossip about the team's members.
 
Speaking of which, the line-up includes:
- Beast (after his stint with the Secret Avengers) is in because of his popularity as a former Avenger; being involved with this group doesn't go against his morals, especially as the X-People don't answer to Cyclops
- Havok (returned from space) well know as X-Factor's former leader and will also lead this new group, as to not be in his brother's shadow
- Polaris (returned from space) was a rather popular members of X-Factor when it was working for the US government
- Northstar, former Olympic gold medalist, token gay and Canadian (X-People helps everyone, not just Americans)
- Dazzler, famous actress and singer
- Iceman, to be with his friends and to be the "guy from next door"
- Elixir, the "golden boy"
- Lacuna, former mutant talk show host, familiar with the media-friendly mutant team concept due to her involvement with X-Statix, a bit maturer now after X-Statix died
 
The cast includes lots of romantic tension (Dazzler/Beast) (Havok/Polaris) (Iceman/Polaris) (Northstar/Iceman) and pre-established friendships to build upon. As enemies I'd establish the Dark Beast and the Friends of Humanity. The first two years  will end with a storyline in which our heroes are set up for a fall. The press will learn everyone's dark secrets:
- Beast's ditry work under Cyclops' orders
- Polaris being Magneto's daughter
- Dazzler harboring her killer sister
- Northstar having cheated at the Olympics
- Elixir and Lacuna having killed
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  Quote Anti-Limbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Sep-2010 at 7:02pm
I don't think I could do better than Peter Luzifer. You pretty much nailed what I would have done. A team of well-known-within-the-Universe mutants out to be a positive face for mutants. It's kind of like what Astonishing was supposed to be without going off on off-world tangents. I personally could do without Lacuna though for no particular reason.
 
The way you set it up the first 2 years would kind of lend itself to a memebership shake-up right off the bat. Or the potential for one anyway which is good in my opinion.
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  Quote Binaryan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Sep-2010 at 9:22pm
I agree... not much more to improve on with Peter Luzifer's ideas.  Both the young X-Men and the "leftover" X-Men have enough story potential to carry a new series, IMO.  I'd drop Elixir and Lacuna from Peter's roster and sub in Prodigy as the team's tech support, Cecilia Reyes as field medic (adding both diversity, romantic tension with Beast and an "everywoman" perspective on things) as well as Husk, who I just think is too cool a character to be so perpetually sidelined.  I'd toss in some government back-up with a Mutantes Sans Frontieres meets XSE vibe but heavy on the public side of it.  The whole deal would be underwritten by Warren as a kind of penance for his actions with X-Force.  This would come back to haunt the team down the line.

I'd build off of Bobby's recent meeting with Kate Kildare and maybe set him up with Husk.  I think his light-hearted nature and her bookishness could make for a nice combo.  I'd really want him to be the star of the book as he's the one original X-Man who always seems to be sidelined, plot-wise.


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  Quote Crawler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Sep-2010 at 11:45pm
I would personally bring back the Nation X stuff as an ongoing, with seemingly random characters who are bound by a sense of doing the right thing at first to answer a distress call that comes from a mutant when the other X-Men are off in San Fran fighting the Neo or Grotesk or whatever.

Here's your cast:

*Iceman: He's the character that the entire book hangs on. He's an X-Man, and he was tasked with making sure the trains ran on time while the other X-Men ran off and did their thing.
*Stinger: She's potential love interest material, and she's looking for atonement. For the first time, she sees the light so to speak, especially now that the X-Men are a self-sustaining community that takes care of its own. When she sees the opportunity to give back and spend time with her new crush, Bobby, she takes it.
*Surge: It's time for us to get to the heart of the matter of why she's gone from in-control team leader to hyper-bitch. When a mutant distress call comes in from Japan, she agrees to go not out of duty, but because she wants to sneak away and see her younger brother, the one she was so angsty about in Academy X. Her ditching the team will cause problems in that first storyline.
*Match: I choose Ben here because he's the most malleable character in the X-Universe right now. He has nothing other than a cool visual to support him, and I can see a buddy team-up with him and Iceman despite the age difference, with Bobby calling them Fire & Ice, like the old Red & Blue team-ups of DC. The great part about him is you can set his personality yourself and handle him the way you want to.
*Toad: Ever since the 198, Toad has seen himself go from the shadows in one place to the shadows of the X-Universe. I honestly think he joins Bobby for two reasons--Bobby chooses him so that he can't cause trouble while Bobby's gone, and Toad is just plain bored as hell anyway. This is the opportunity to build him as more than just a whipping boy. He started his own Brotherhood, and Bobby hasn't forgotten that. He's loathe to admit it, but he wants this guy at his back because of his experience, especially when the most experienced members of the crew are in the field.
*Lorelei: Medusa, Jr. here was chosen because she seems to be the one with the least number of problems. Plus, I want there to be a mystery with her. What happened to her baby? Who is raising that child now, and why isn't she? She's a nice girl, and of course she'd volunteer to help someone, especially since the guy who helped her out once is going. She might see it as being able to somehow pay back the kindness, because I think she might think that way. Plus, hair control is an awesome power.
*Husk: Finally, we have Husk. I think everyone wants to see her get more use, and this is the perfect place for it. She acts as a medium for everyone to either talk to or to cross generational gaps when it comes to Bobby and the kids. Plus, the team lacks someone who can get down and dirty with the super-strong ones, and she fits that bill. Plus, I can see her becoming the tech-junkie for the team for some reason.

The first arc involves, as mentioned before, a distress call from Japan. All of the other main team X-Men are off-location, and so Bobby is forced to leave the island in the hands of its resident non-X-Men who might still be able to handle it, like, say, the X-Club. So yeah, Bobby gathers his team, which may have different reasons for being there. While in Japan, Surge runs off to be able to see her brother, but she finds that he's missing--and, her mother confides to her while her father storms off, that, before M-Day, he exhibited low-level mutant powers and retained them. Surge rejoins the team and, after being scolded, finds out that Bobby and his team have found out that there's a lot of research being done on cells that produce more energy than they should be able to given the amount that they take in. Wait, what's that? That sounds like mutant cells? Bingo. This leads to the uncovering of a company that does work with producing bio-weapons by feeding small amounts of energy into weapons that exponentiate that energy in what looks like a synthetic version of mutant cells. But what's happened to those mutants? They have to burst into the facility and defeat the head of the company, a man known as the Sponge for lack of a better title, who absorbs energy and pumps it back at you harder than you hit him (like Bishop, but tech-based). Eventually, they save the few mutants that Japan had left after M-Day and Surge is finally reunited with her brother, relieving her crappy attitude.

After this, they become an unofficial outreach team of sorts, operating under the MSF banner so that they can enter other countries while the X-Men take care of business at home. Countries all over the world must still have mutants, even if they are in smaller numbers. So who's helping them? These guys are, of course.

Future storylines include:

- Mr. M's magnificent return at the one-year anniversary of his death, but sinister now that his pacifist ideals have been shattered. What does this mean for his child, who has been raised in seclusion, a seemingly human baby born from the loins of one of the most powerful mutants to ever live.
- The mid-20s mutant son of a senator is holed up in a bunker in Colorado, knowing that the nano-Sentinels that escaped Messiah CompleX are getting closer and closer to breaching the bunker's defenses one by one. Can these X-Men defeat this new brand of Sentinel, especially with the knowledge that Lexington and Slayton are still somewhere inside them?
- Rumors begin to emerge that Dryad's father, Giancarlo Betto, seeks vengeance on all mutants for failing to protect his daughter. The scientist begins killing, starting with the someone like the forgotten Rhapsody by sending bio-engineered poisonous flowers to their doorsteps. What horrors await in the man's gigantic greenhouse home, and what kind of man-sized Venus fly traps or worse will they have to face to get to the man himself?
- Storm asks the team to do recon work, masquerading as relief workers in Dharfur while searching for a mutant who had the power to generate clean water. Is he being held against his will while his people go thirsty, and can the X-Men continue to stand on the fence as they witness the horrors in the region?


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  Quote Peter Luzifer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Sep-2010 at 9:28am
Anti-Limbo & Ryan, thanks for the compliments. Both your comments made me think, and slightly alter the idea. Indeed, let's not have Lacuna as a member of the group. Still she is a too good character to go to waste (IMO), and I want the rest of the MU to acknoledge X-Statix a bit more, so how about Lacuna is in the book as the person who will do the exposing? It's just like before, she'll do her talk show with bits and pieces about the new team, and eventually she will learn all the dark secrets.
 
Adding in Cecilia is ok by me too, though I don't see her in the media spotlight. Guess that means she'll have to be a support staff member. I was thinking about Husk myself, but without Warren I thought she had no connections to the rest of the team. Still on the fence with her, as she might take away from Iceman's "guy from next door" angle. Maybe Husk will get in after the unavailable line-up change....
 
Prodigy I don't really get. The guy didn't want to be an X-Man when he was a mutant, and only agreed to stay as long as he needed to control his powers, and then he was depowered and could pursue university, but stays with the X-Men? Odd.
 
Starting line-up: Havok, Beast, Dazzler, Elixir, Iceman, Northstar, Polaris (Cecilia Reyes)
Recruits for line-up change: Husk and Kylun - to replace Elixir and Beast  
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  Quote Anti-Limbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Sep-2010 at 5:06pm
@Peter Luzifer - I like the tweeks. Even though I never cared for X-Statix I don't like seeing characters go to waste (you know me), so I was thinking if you did still want one of them on your team any of them would work cause they were all public figures. I say keep Elixer, because he is a perfect example of how being a mutant can be a good thing, which works for the angle you set up.
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  Quote grief Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Sep-2010 at 3:17am
@Crawler - I like those plot ideas. And Iceman and Toad on the same team? I love it. S'only reason Bobby isn't on my team. ; ) Well, that, and I don't want that Alex-Lorna-Bobby drama. Ugh.

I think my concept would be a bit more about exploring who we've got left in the mutant community, more of an outreach program. Cyclops knows that there are a limited number of mutants on the planet. Those mutants need to be reached out, helped, or in the cases of the less-sane ones, either eliminated or captured. My book would be the oddly titled the Other X-Men (as it features those other mutant characters).

Main cast:

Havok - I know a lot of us want to see Havok return and put the smackdown on Scott for his idiotic leadership during the past few crises. However, Alex is just coming home from an intergalactic war. He's been doing some killing and making the hard choices himself. Alex might not like Scott's handling or decisions, but he accepts them. He offers his services to Scott not as a warrior though, but as a friend and brother. After all the death and killing he's just witnessed, Alex wants to help people, defend people, and so he puts together a unit to do just that.

Polaris - After all that time spent in space, Lorna and Alex are back on and happier than ever. However, upon their return, Lorna finds that not only is her father alive, but working alongside the X-Men. She doesn't know how to feel about this - her relationship with Magneto having never worked out in the past. Plus, after all that space-sex, she and Alex have a baby on the way to worry about. So Lorna leaves with the new group, hoping for a little more peace of mind.

Surge - I honestly don't think there's any mystery to Surge's bitchiness. She's tried to be a team leader and failed (in her eyes) miserably. Seeing her potential and her self-destructing, Alex pulls her onto the team, which also leads into their first mission: finding Elixir.

Toad - Honestly just because I really like Toad's character. But there are a plethora of reasons. He has experience in the field, depending on his personality he's a cunning leader, he has adaptable mutations, and he's a bit of a jerk. And all teams need a bit of a jerk. Plus, Alex has shown a soft spot in the past before when his team took Juggernaut in.

Raptor - Having lost the Phoenix force, Rachel Grey feels pretty cut off from all reality right now. She's miserable, brooding, and totally withdrawn. In an attempt to get her to step out of her new shell, Alex asks her to join the team, giving her a purpose to live for until she can find her own.

Prodigy - He's part of Surge's problem and he's the team science guy. More than able to handle himself in the field thanks to his training, Prodigy also brings a sense of heart to the team. He's going to be the most concerned about the people they reach out to, even if he's the most powerless.

The team would be based out of the Mansion, rebuilt by Rachel's tk, although that would happen at the end of the first story arc. For stories, they would largely focus and feature different established mutants and just what's going on with them - for better or for worse. Some would stay on as background members or temporary team members, others would come in and out as villains.

- The first arc deals with the team going after Elixir. Surge has been coming to Cyclops for weeks since Josh left, asking him to go and get the young man. His healing abilities are needed, what with Hellion and Karma's injuries, and who knows what other damage the X-Men'll take in the future? However, not wanting to risk the resources, Scott's been holding back.
Alex, however, is more than willing to help. The team heads out (Alex asking Toad to come along to get a different perspective on things) and finds Elixir in a mid-west town surrounded by...mutants? During his exile, Josh believes that he's discovered how to activate mutant powers - but it has disastrous results. He'll end up escaping, coming back to haunt the team (and Surge) later on.

- When the Dark X-Men disbanded, Mystique, Omega, Mimic, and Dark Beast split. But what exactly became of Omega, Mimic, and Dark Beast? While Alex doesn't relish running into McCoy again, Omega's powers and mindset are too unstable to leave wandering around America. The team must also deal with Mimic's knowledge of the future - a poor and sad end for him leading him to make several risky and dangerous choices.

- The team calls in Husk and M to help them find and corral Blink, who has gone missing since her appearance during Necrosha. Obviously confused (or potentially deranged), they manage to find her as she travels the world, attempting to resurrect her dead queen. After reaching out to her, the group finally convinces Blink to step out on her own and she joins the team.

And so on and so on. Eventually the team would run into Exodus, little Carter Gazhikanian, fight Elixir and the re-powered X-Cell, and so on. But you get the idea.
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I too like that idea but i also love Peters' idea.
I would have an x-men team too that is based in westchester iso sf. The premier would be that they would be THE x-men's liaison to the government. Therefor they would be officialy recognized by the authorities (but not always loved), the avengers and the fantastic Four.   They would not only right mutant threats but would also assist in other local or mutant threats, putting them at times at odds with the rest of the mutant community.
My team?

Beast: as a member of both x-men and the avengers, he is an authority when it comes to mutant affairs and THE government. His academic experience as well as his connection to a large part of the superheroes community comes in handy too. (avengers, x-men, defenders, sword, others...)

Havok: who else of all those underused characters could lead a government sanctioned team. The guy just fought a war, he should have picked up a skill or two.   It would also give a nice interaction with cyclops. Alex leading his own team of mutants, being shocked over recent events and scott's involvment in it, as well as blaming scott for being abandonned by him for not being there when their father needed them, will not bode well with scott.

Polaris: the daughter of magneto is back, and the will know it. Stronger than ever, as well as in power as in mind, she is back to make a difference and to come clean with her past. Magneto is indeed alive and she wants some clarity and answers. What relationship will they share? Is the technology that gave his powers back, the same as hers? And what to do now that Alex proposed?

Dazzler: another high profile in the mutant society. She is a singer, an actress, an x-men. She has almost met every superhero,....   She definately wants to step up and make a difference. Still some mysteries remain... How does she survive all those horrible deaths. I bet mojo does know more about this. Btw. prepare for a battle of the stars as Ali and lila duke it out, as to whom gets to sing at Lorna and alex wedding.

Northstar: famous athlete, celebrity, gay icon, x-men, superhero.   'nuffig said. Jean Paul is really getting into this superhero stuff and will be an excellent asset to the team. That is if he is not too distracted by the group newest member, or is hè?

Toad: comic relief, whitty banter, take your pick.   Toad has it all. He'll be iceman of this group. As a atrocity of humanity he will clash with a lot of fellow teammembers, especially when he continues to hit on ali. Let's hope she does (not) burns his face off.

Mimic:   As one of the remnants of the dark x-men, he is placed under the supervision of the team. Possessing no longer the power of the original five, he needs to seek an identity and powerset of his own. Under the sessions of doc Samson, his fractured mind begins to recover, and the mimic can truely become a Hero.

Daken: always having an ulterior motive, daken believes being part of this team will grant him power and influence and he enlists himself as being part of the team, taking the wolverine title again.   Influencing Valerie cooper into getting accepted to the team, he also 'convinces' Lorna into defending him to havok.   Is he pulling the same tricks on Jean Paul? Or are his feelings genuine?

That's as far as the team goes. Perhaps a great addition afterwards would be x-man.


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I think we need a new Thunderbolts-esque X-Team.  A group who isn't really around to do important stuff but is a group to learn to help others.

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  Quote Gibbering Fool Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Oct-2010 at 7:32am
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I think we need a new Thunderbolts-esque X-Team.  A group who isn't really around to do important stuff but is a group to learn to help others.
 
Taking what you said, I think they could take Dark X-men and mold it into a Thunderbolts style X-Book.  It could be a team brought together by Xavier in an effort to reedeem certain characters and trying to repair human/mutant relations.  The roster would include:
 
Xavier: He hasn't done anything since coming back to the X-men. I would be happy to see him working towards his dream, which has really fallen to the wayside since M-Day. 
Mystique: Never repentant, I could see Mystique being arrested once again, but Xavier convinced Val Cooper and Steve Rogers to hand her into his custody for his rehabilitation program.
Mimic:  Always hoping the fence between hero and villain, he could see this as his opportunity to make up for picking the wrong side in Osborn's Dark X-men
Omega: I could see Xavier not wanting Pointer, due to his instability and extreme power, but Steve Would push this one on him.
Avalanche and Toad:  These two have been hanging around the X-men for a while now, neither seem outright villainous.
Legion: Still working to rehabilitate his sone, Xavier brings him along, hoping that doing good for the world will help him.  But will spending time with the likes of Mystique really help him?
 
I could see Xavier taking the team up againt very public threats, much like the Astonishing X-Men, to try and build up good publicity.  I'd start off with an arc unrelated to mutants, like a small alien invasion, or a giant monster bursting out of the sea.  The following arc I would have the team going up against Sugar Man, who has taken his mutate bonding process to Madripoor and is seeling mutate slaves.  He would have retained the services of the Nasty Boys as his press gang and bodyguards (hey Sinister obviously doesn't want them)
 
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  Quote absolutely Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Oct-2010 at 1:39am
Originally posted by Gibbering Fool

Originally posted by marhawkman

I think we need a new Thunderbolts-esque X-Team.  A group who isn't really around to do important stuff but is a group to learn to help others.
 
Taking what you said, I think they could take Dark X-men and mold it into a Thunderbolts style X-Book.  It could be a team brought together by Xavier in an effort to reedeem certain characters and trying to repair human/mutant relations.  The roster would include:
 
Xavier: He hasn't done anything since coming back to the X-men. I would be happy to see him working towards his dream, which has really fallen to the wayside since M-Day. 
Mystique: Never repentant, I could see Mystique being arrested once again, but Xavier convinced Val Cooper and Steve Rogers to hand her into his custody for his rehabilitation program.
Mimic:  Always hoping the fence between hero and villain, he could see this as his opportunity to make up for picking the wrong side in Osborn's Dark X-men
Omega: I could see Xavier not wanting Pointer, due to his instability and extreme power, but Steve Would push this one on him.
Avalanche and Toad:  These two have been hanging around the X-men for a while now, neither seem outright villainous.
Legion: Still working to rehabilitate his sone, Xavier brings him along, hoping that doing good for the world will help him.  But will spending time with the likes of Mystique really help him?
 
I could see Xavier taking the team up againt very public threats, much like the Astonishing X-Men, to try and build up good publicity.  I'd start off with an arc unrelated to mutants, like a small alien invasion, or a giant monster bursting out of the sea.  The following arc I would have the team going up against Sugar Man, who has taken his mutate bonding process to Madripoor and is seeling mutate slaves.  He would have retained the services of the Nasty Boys as his press gang and bodyguards (hey Sinister obviously doesn't want them)
 
 
Sort of a Freedom Force/Brotherhood of Evil Mutants thing? I could see that...
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Following the idea that this would be a more public figure of the X-Men. Working alongside Scott at times, while also working with the government to help mutant and human relations, my team would be:

Havok - Having seen his father murdered, and his brother going down a dark path; Havok chooses to live up to the dream he once believed in. He hopes to bring more stability and hope to the future of mutantkind while helping their relations. But is his own strive and stability enough to keep him on that straight and narrow path, or will his dark and inner fears come back to the surface?

Polaris - She was many of the mutant depowered on M-Day. Her father and brother was also depowered..but at the hands of Apocalypse, she was repowered..and perhaps is even more powerful than ever. Standing by her fiance' and by his own beliefs, she also believes that the relations needs to be improved..but she once played devil's advocate. Will her own beliefs and strong-willed Lorna put a hinch in her relationship with Alex? Will her connection to Magneto, and the person responsible for M-Day; Wanda also hurt the teams own words of helping mutant relations?

Rachel - While working with Alex and Lorna, she's grown to respect her uncle and Lorna Dane. In Alex, she finds someone she can willingly follow and believe in. In Lorna, she has found someone she can confide in about the death of her family, her mother, he estranged relationship with her father..and the relationship he has with the former villainess - Emma Frost. Having lost everything in her life, including her connection to the Phoenix Force..Rachel feels more lost than ever. Will her connection to Lorna and Alex be enough to keep her sanity; her will this make her more prone to the mechanations of one her fiercest enemies?

Husk - Having been rejected by Warren Worthington, Paige Guthrie finds herself on the outs with many of the X-Men while still helping them in their time of need. Hearing that Alex was pulling together a team. Paige Guthrie see's this as an opportunity to make a difference in the lives of many mutants and humans alike - and perhaps to the world. She's the girl next door that everyone can't help but to love, even if she is a mutant. Undoubtedly, she may be one of the most important members of this team in helping to keep them together and moving forward; but does Paige herself have enough hope to help co-lead this team next to Alex Summers; a veteran member or will the age-gap be their downfall?

Dust - Having found out about X-Force; she doesn't under why the X-Men would go out their way to kill others. She believed in Xavier's dream, and it has let her down. Though she's seen teammates fall, she still believes that their is hope in the estranged relationship. She also feels strongly that her background could help the team bridge that gap even more. Finding a kindred spirit in Paige, the two immediately befriend each other..but what does the future hold for Sooraya?

Mystique - It's better to keep her close..or perhaps better to keep her at a distance. No one has been able to understand Ms. Raven Darkholme, but Alex see's this as an opportunity to use Mystique. But is her using her, or is she using the team? No doubt, Mystique's many skill will be useful and beneficial to the team..but Paige, Rachel, and Sooraya have their doubts about using a known villainess on a superhero team. Will Mystique stay true, or does she have her own schemes?

Match - He's the youngest on the team, and doesn't understand why Alex recruited him onto the team. He's never been anyone's choice, and is easily influenced by his peers. But, he's one of the less appealing to the humans community. Does Mystique see this as her opportunity? Is Match exactly the boy-next-door; or is their some dark harboring secret that he's never told anyone?

Over the course, I'd include some others who would come and go. We'd see the appearance of Elixir, alongside Mystique's old team; Avalanche.

The first arc I would have them going after Dark Beast whose taken the former members of Dark X-Men; and is causing a ruckus in NYC about a new team of superhero's. This may be a opportunity to prove their worth to the world; bringing justice to the unjustice. And Omega and Calvin just may have an opportunity to redeem themselves.

The second - I would see the return of Selene! When word comes from Genosha that one of their own is in trouble; the team will travel to Genosha to find out what Elixir meant by his cryptic  message. Little do they know that it's a trap by the Dark Queen herself; Selene. Weakened and drained after her stint in Necrosha, Selene found the distraught Elixir and warped him to her liking..but Elixir isn't the one she wants or needs; it's Rachel Summers. She hopes to drain her former nemesis dry of all her power so that she can retake her former role. Will she accomplish her goals, or will the team fail on their first critical mission?

After them, we'd start to see some inner turmoil. A future visit by Azazel. A team-up with Exodus and X-Factor.
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I'm digging the idea of a  mutant team of Thunderbolts... former villains who've been influenced enough by their time sequestered on Utopia to see the possibility of a better life.  I think Xavier would work well taking this on and I'd team him up with the following mutants:

Toad - Mimic - Avalanche - Tempo -  Scalphunter - Dragoness - Amelia Voght
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Amelia and Tempo I could see as the people on the team to keep them from running amok.  As much as I like Gibbs' idea of reworking the Dark Xmen, it doesn't have that Thunderbolts feel.  I especially like having members of several different villain teams.

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Okay, so, I'm all for the kids having a team again. My reasons are plural;
1- It seems a waste to have had such good development of them only to have them pretty much relegated to background cast or rotated in Legacy.
2- If they had their own X-Squad before, why were so few of them actively involved in a team roster post Manifest Destiny?
3- The vast majority of them are NOT redundant in terms of their powersets.

So, the way I would start it is having Cyclops giving a speech to an unknown person. It's the typical Scott 'Inspirational' fare, about how, with everything that's happened, the kids need someone they can look up to, someone who is the poster-child for a life in the X-Men, and there's no better candidate than... (I await surprise here)... Kitty. As much as I hate her, and as much as I don't PERSONALLY see it, I think she would be a good fit for a mentor, certainly as much of a good mentor as Rogue. Basically, she's all healed and solid after space dildo, and the first panel we see of her would be her sitting in a chair, arms folded and one eyebrow raised cynically, saying to Scott "Who are you trying to convince; me or you? After all, I'm the one who got one of them killed...". Then we flash back to two days before; The squad is as follows: Surge, Mercury, Dust, Rockslide, Anole, Indra and Pixie, with the Cuckoos keeping telepathic tabs on them via Cerebra (although Phoebe is with the team).

Surge is pissed (of course she is), and despite Anole and Dust trying to convince her that she needs to cool off, she's not interested and darts away from the group, Dust in hot pursuit. Mercury asks Victor if he really thought that was going to work, he replies with something angsty only for Indra to reveal that the reason Surge is so angry (and that they're back on the site of the old Institute) is that David is missing, presumed kidnapped. Rockslide asks why they're even here anymore which allows Pixie to explain via expository dialogue that David's Danger Cave was rigged to sound an alarm built into his costume and Surge's gauntlets should anyone venture through it without their knowledge, and an hour after David went missing, the alarm went off. Phoebe follows up by explaining that it's possible that this is David trying to let them know he's okay. Dust reappears as we see massive electrical arcs firing off in the distance-- Sooraya explains that something awful has happened--

Cut to David being held in a cell somewhere. It's dark, he doesn't know where he is, all he knows is that he recognises one of the other voices in the dark; It's Sophia! She explains that she was taken along with Barnell and Angel a few weeks ago and that every couple of days, some of them are taken elsewhere and never come back-- she assumes the worst since she Angel and Barnell both were taken a few days ago and by her reckoning, they're going to take a few others soon, and there's only a few of them left... No sooner has she finished speaking than she's taken away, screaming...

Cut back to Utopia, and Kitty has stumbled across the Cuckoos in Cerebra and asks where the kids are. The other teams are on a mission and she'd been left behind to look after the kids (with Scott and Emma not thinking she's ready for field ops yet) before realising half of them are missing. The Cuckoos end up telling her what's happened. She rolls her eyes, makes some kind of racist remark, then storms off to find a jet.

The kids have stumbled across something horrific-- the dead bodies of the students/X-Men who died pre M-Day/still had their powers afterwards have been taken. They also get the telepathic heads up that Kitty's on her way to meet them and bring them home. Surge wants to find who did it and why, when Rockslide finds a clue-- a receipt from a fast food outlet in Chicago. Pixie teleports them as Phoebe sends a sly telepathic message to her sisters; "Keep Miss Pryde informed..."

Cut to Chicago where it's revealed that Abyss and Fatale (returned from inside Abyss and not having exploded, but the effects of the Terrigan Crystals having worn off), have enlisted the help of Dark Beast to find a cure for depowerment. They've been using genetic material from non-depowered mutants to try to find a way to return their powers permanently and safely. DB reveals he thinks he's finally cracked it, at which Fatale is happy, as they only have one more test subject left alive... close up on a hand dangling out from underneath a blood-stained sheet, wearing Sophia's charm bracelet.... END OF ISSUE ONE!

From there I would have the kids and Kitty trying to find the base of operations, finding it and getting into a brawl just as David's "treatment" has finished. Kitty starts ordering them about and assuming control, telling Dust to stay calm and stay at least semi-solid as they're in a confined space and she could well flay them all alive if she flips out. DB has placed nannites into the corpses and they come to life and fight the New X-Men (as is the title's name). David awakens, and because his powers were mental, he had been treated with a synthesis of Jean Grey's tissue. He manifests a small Phoenix raptor before convulsing... his powers had returned, and he therefore knew that DB was lying and that the nannites would eventually kill him. His powers in tandem with the telekinetic powers of Jean awakened in him caused him to attack the nannites on a molecular level so he could survive with an unexpected side effect-- not only do his old powers fade again, but so do Jean's leaving him with powers of technopathy (communicating with machines and controlling them, but not being able to make them, like Forge). The New X-Men and Kitty fight off the zombies, and Fatale and Abyss run off, but DB is furious at having being beaten by the X-Men during The Dark Avengers crossover, and now at the hands of children, and he flips out, firing a gun randomly into the group. Before he does so, Kitty dives at Dust, phasing as she does so, realising that Dust was too busy tending to David to go granular and avoid the attack... she grabs Dust and David and phases, just as she sees Noriko speeding towards them to move them, Nori can't move fast enough to avoid the oncoming gun fire...

Which is soaked up, instead, by Anole, who had been in camouflage and takes several rounds in the chest... he dies.

We flash back to the present day and it's Anole's funeral. Everyone is upset, and Kitty can barely bring herself to go (because, as always, it's all about her...), until the New X-Men encourage her to do so, explaining that due to David's new power, he was snooping on the conversation she had with Cyclops earlier, and that she SHOULD be their new mentor-- if she's willing to take a death so badly, and so publicly, it shows that she's going to be more invested in making sure they're safe... which is something they don't feel Emma has been doing for some time. At the mere mention of her former arch rival, naturally, Kitty is FULL of pompous sanctimony and decides that she'll be their mentor. They all go to Anole's funeral, and as is the way with X-Funerals nowadays, someone entirely unappropriate delivers the eulogy (maybe Cannonball). Kitty is devoted to making the team work etc.

I would follow with plotlines regarding Nori's family, her father, I've decided, will be involved in manufacturing the Japanese equivalent of 'The Cure'. Dust's eternal quest to find her mother is resolved as she finds her mother in a slave camp, as she's a mutant with geokinetic abilities; Prodigy coming to terms with his new power, basically, I would want to give each main character some kind of story arc before setting them up against DB again... I would want that battle between DB and his newly recruited/re-powered Morlocks to be the final arc that I wrote before passing it on to someone else.

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That sounds great das_boot, though with the funeral you forgot the second requirement; that someone has to reveall they had sex with the deceased.  I vote for Ink.
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Ink would be a good shout, but I'd be less surprised by Rockslide...
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That's awesome das boot...

Both you and grief had the same ideas I did... doing a team with the X-Jammers and then a team with the New X-Men.

But couldn't you kill Ink or Graymalkin instead of Anole? I love Anole.   
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But couldn't you kill Ink or Graymalkin instead of Anole? I love Anole.   
I concur. I know we should kill off better liked characters for the emotional gut punch, but let's continue to kill of the excess, ok?

I like where everyone is going with these. I too would either think 'New' X-Men or 'Media Darling' X-Men, with the basic line ups listed.

Of course my dream team would be a team we've discussed before - Gay-X: Led by power couple Rictor & Shatterstar, they recruit the LGBT spectrum from the X-Teams: Northstar (A-List Gay, C-List X-Man), Dazzler (#1 Fruit Fly & aging Pop Star), Anole & Greymalkin (the Gay BFFs, and fill the 'freak' quota), Bling! (she's shiny AND she likes girls!), and Karma (robot leg - check!, likes girls - check!). They travel the globe talking mutant rights, gay rights, beating up The Thing, and of course all things fun & fabulous.

This of course is a huge joke, becuase even typing it out it sounds like the worst team ever

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Lol.   They could encounter the all new, all different sissyhood of evil mutants.
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Originally posted by QDLux29

Originally posted by chrissstopher

But couldn't you kill Ink or Graymalkin instead of Anole? I love Anole.   
I concur. I know we should kill off better liked characters for the emotional gut punch, but let's continue to kill of the excess, ok?

I like where everyone is going with these. I too would either think 'New' X-Men or 'Media Darling' X-Men, with the basic line ups listed.

Of course my dream team would be a team we've discussed before - Gay-X: Led by power couple Rictor & Shatterstar, they recruit the LGBT spectrum from the X-Teams: Northstar (A-List Gay, C-List X-Man), Dazzler (#1 Fruit Fly & aging Pop Star), Anole & Greymalkin gay rights, beating up The Thing, and of course all things fun & fabulous.

This of course is a huge joke, becuase even typing it out it sounds like the worst team ever


Actually, it's not that bad of a lineup when you look at it.

Rictor can be the dispatcher, the depowered mutant who still believes in the mutant and human co-existence.

Shatterstar is the unknown; the alien and the one who can get down and dirty when the times call for it. He also has a connection to Rictor in the form of his lover, and a connection to Dazzler.

Northstar is the speedster, cocky, arrogant, openly gay, and is great friends with Dazzler. No doubt, Shatterstar would find him strange yet alluring..while Rictor would be jealous and weary of the speedster. Lots of room for drama.

Dazzler..she's the disco queen, the powerhouse of the team when she wants to be and is somewhat the most experienced next to 'Star. Her possible son is on the team, and she loves Dazzler as her BFF..lots of drama when 'Star goes for Northstar, and she finds out Star is her son..and she's BFF with Northstar.

Anole and Graymalkin is the two kids - two somewhat physical powerhouses. Plus, I think Graymalkin stands to be fleshed out much more.

Yes, they're all gay or bi, except Dazzler..but it's an interesting team. The only real lack is having a leader. I just don't see Rictor and Shatterstar as leaders. I'm sure they could pull Xavier..


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Alex and Rachel return to Earth unconscious but otherwise healthy. After catching up on what has been going on they recruit Iceman, Surge, Hellion, Rockslide, and Northstar to help them find out why Polaris and Kovar were missing during the landing. The search across the globe brings them into conflict with forgotten heroes and villains from across the Marvel Universe as Iceman and Alex try to bury their past Lorna-centric rivalry once and for all while Northstar tries to get Rachel to come into her own as a mentor to the younger team members who keep wondering what it really means to be not just an X-Man but a Hero.

We have inter-team conflict between two fan favorite heroes who both have excellent points for why they are right, Northstar playing the calm veteran who keeps his eye on the objective, Rachel finally being forced to admit she can't play "Little Sister" role anymore and thus redefining her role in the X-verse, plus three newer characters getting a real lesson in being "heroic" and the path that they claim they want to walk on.
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Originally posted by chrissstopher

That's awesome das boot...

Both you and grief had the same ideas I did... doing a team with the X-Jammers and then a team with the New X-Men.

But couldn't you kill Ink or Graymalkin instead of Anole? I love Anole.   


Thought I'd replied to this already... I would rather go for the gut-punch a la K+Y. Basically, I would want this title to be somewhere between the Kyle and Yost all-action and the DeFillipis and Weir all-development-- not to say that Kyle and Yost didn't develop the characters, because they did, in spades, but I would want to steer away from the D+W era of, as my housemate put it, 'Sweet Valley High with super-powers' feel.

I would want to write it so that each character has a distinct arc to develop them as a character, as well as allowing for some action, with the exception of Prodigy, who I would want to be developed as a long-term venture. I could see him, as a Technopath, being as useful a strategic resource as the Cuckoos are, being able to monitor a team via local CCTV feeds etc. I would want to see him dealing with being one of the perceived ;weak sisters' in terms of power, to dealing with being depowered and still an X-Man, and then repowered to the point of him being invaluable. Those are a LOT of changed to have happen to a character, and in a relatively short space of time, too.

I was going to kill off Dust, before realising that she's actually quite a unique character and certainly deserves more limelight than she's been given. 
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