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Tyler5618
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Topic: Huge DC Announcement Posted: 31-Aug-2011 at 3:59pm |
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I'm GREATLY looking forward to the revamp. As much as I love Marvel and it's history, DC's history has never been anything I wanted to read about - and so I avoided getting into their books. I understand that most of the continuity is being kept, but if the writer's are treating this like a fresh start, then I'm hoping the baggage will say in the attic. I'm looking forward to WAY TOO MANY titles to give a crap about the "old" DC. |
This! I've never been much of a DC fan for the reasons you mention grief so I'm excited about this as it will be a fresh start for me, everyone will be on the same page, and I don't have to delve into 50+ years of continuity.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2011 at 3:46pm |
Had an interesting conversation yesterday with the the local guy who runs the closest thing this town has to a comic book shop (general collectibles shop). He's already mentioned that DC sells better than Marvel for him as the college students seem to prefer it here. However he is NOT looking forward to this New 52 as most of his customers are unhappy about it and he himself as a man that has been selling comics for twenty-something years, as a retailer he does not see this as something that across the nation will last for DC. Granted not a typical example but something that seems to be getting lost amidst all this. The folks who actually have to sell these comics to make a living and keep their small business afloat. How many of them feel this is going to help business?
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Alex I do everything like a hawk.
This isn't DC Comics -- Marvel continuity doesn't die out if you don't water it often enough.
The whole Batman idea is a very childish response to childhood trauma.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2011 at 5:24am |
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One thing I hope the new Justice League does is capture that same energy Morrison did when he reintroduced the team in JLA...we can argue about Bendis' various Avengers run but at least he attempted to make them interesting. The Justice League since the 90s has only been entertaining (consistently) when under Morrison's pen and I hope Johns/Lee can even reach half that level of greatness.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2011 at 4:44am |
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The funny thing about this revamp is the fact that its not really much different than what DC policy seemed to be anyways. While there are writers like Johns or Morrison there (and Carey and such at Marvel) that like to look to the past and use past stories and such, there were more that just lived in the moment with their stories and pretended like the past wasn't really there outside the basics of the character. This revamp is just like that except there will be a lot of cosmetic and historical changes made to the characters with the snap of a finger and we have to just learn what those changes are and if they fit into anything. While I was rolling my eyes at first, it's here and its not going away so I'm just gonna dive into the stories that I'm excited for and go on. Far easier than being an angry fanboy shaking a fist at the company that won't change just cause of that shaking fist lol.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 9:50pm |
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I dunno. Most of what I read is barely changing, so let's just see how it goes. Deathstroke is the title I think I may be looking forward to the most.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 9:33pm |
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I will forever miss the Six - but I'm also hoping that at some point, we might see more. ; ) Give the book a rest, let things set for awhile and maybe...just maybe...
As for the rest of it, I'm GREATLY looking forward to the revamp. As much as I love Marvel and it's history, DC's history has never been anything I wanted to read about - and so I avoided getting into their books. I understand that most of the continuity is being kept, but if the writer's are treating this like a fresh start, then I'm hoping the baggage will say in the attic.
I'm looking forward to WAY TOO MANY titles to give a crap about the "old" DC.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 9:21pm |
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Sad to see Secret Six go. I liked Wally too. Aaaaannnd that's about it.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 9:00pm |
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I'll miss Wally as well...no idea how Bart fits in when Barry isn't married and hasn't been to the future...yet Wally won't lol. Should have made Wally Kid Flash. Though whats funny is that they say that whole thing of "Who's to say that the original Teen Titans and the New Teen Titans aren't still in continuity" yet if you are subtracting a major player from those runs....sort of does mess them up quite a bit I'd say.
I'll also miss Connor Hawke. And alas poor Secret Six...I shall miss you most of all. Well that and the current Batgirl. Shame they couldn't find ways to bring those over instead of bringing back the greatest hits in a new form (aka Barbara Batgirl and Suicide Squad). Oracle was the best stories with Barbara IMO.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 8:36pm |
I hope the current roster of the Supermen of America exists after the restart. It's a cool idea.
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Supermen_of_America_II
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 8:20pm |
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Goodbye Oracle, goodbye Gotham City Sirens.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 7:12pm |
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I will miss the Secret Six.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 6:09pm |
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So any last words to the old DC Universe?
I will miss Wally West...probably my favorite DC character. Waid's run is one of my favorite comic runs of all time...
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Posted: 22-Aug-2011 at 8:16pm |
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FCO Plascencia is coloring Capullo's Batman book. This guy/girl/whoever FCO really is absolutely KILLS on Invincible. I'd love to see him color Capullo's Batman but I'm hoping he takes Invincible back over too. Niko Koustis ain't cuttin' the coloring mustard, and he ain't doin' it over on Dragon, either.
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Posted: 10-Aug-2011 at 10:15pm |
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THAT looks amazing EMP. I have never purchased an actual Batman book, but I'd give that a shot.
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Posted: 10-Aug-2011 at 9:34pm |
Except this story is being drawn by David Finch! Just judging by the cover it looks like it'll be a standard Mad Hatter story excpet he got amalgamized with Poison Ivy. It's co-written by paul Jenkins so my expectations are low. I'd prefer something a little stranger, like this: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2011/02/winterwonderland1byduss005.jpg
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Posted: 10-Aug-2011 at 6:06pm |
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Because I'm willing to shell out a few bucks to see Greg Capullo draw a Wonderland themed arc with more than the Hatter and a couple of goons. I think I saw 'White Rabbit' and just made up my own story for her, which is why I find her interesting. I'm sure the story itself will be 'meh'.
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Donny: Are these the Nazis, Walter?
Walter: No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of.
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Posted: 10-Aug-2011 at 4:00am |
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How does White Rabbit sound intertesting given that she's not described in any way on DC's blog, Batman already has Lewis Carroll villains, and Marvel already has a villainess of the same name? They should've called her March Hare, made her brunette, and given her hairsticks that spray toxic or immobilizing mud.
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Posted: 10-Aug-2011 at 3:06am |
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Is it ironic that the solicitions freebie book thing I got for the "New DC 52" solidified my desire to have nothing to do with this instead of interesting me in the books?
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Alex I do everything like a hawk.
This isn't DC Comics -- Marvel continuity doesn't die out if you don't water it often enough.
The whole Batman idea is a very childish response to childhood trauma.
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If the Big 2 won't employ pencilers who are good at cartooning and design, they should at least hire them to do costume designs. When you let guys like Jim Lee who aren't particularly good at grinding out panel work influence your designs, you end up with a lot of busy visuals that not only don't have that iconic feel, but they are a bitch to draw. None of those characters in the link are particularly compelling visually, although giant crustaceans are a good plot device villain to mix things up with. The White Rabbit character sounds interesting, but looks like something Greg Land left on his drafting table. Make her drop dead gorgeous...but with a harelip. They should do something crazy like super powered conjoined twins who have to use martial arts katas or somersaults to move around. I also wouldn't mind a giant minotaur in a green and blue jumpsuit who just beats the livin' hell outta people. Lemmy in a comic would be awesome. Give him a one-shot called Killed By Death.
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Donny: Are these the Nazis, Walter?
Walter: No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of.
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I'm not terribly worried about the creative teams delivering - the only two books I'm particularly concerned about are Jim Lee on JL and Batwoman. JL I'm worried about because it's obviously the flagship BIG book. If that book is late, it's gonna be a NOT GOOD thing. I'm concerned about Batwoman, but that's because I actually really really really want to read the book. NO MORE DELAYS FOR BATWOMAN DANGIT.
I would much rather have a book with fill-in artist than a late book with the regular artist. I don't know the story with Action Comics' artist, but there are a TON of reasons for artist to not be able to get book out on time. Most creators have known that this change and these books were coming for MONTHS now. It's not like they were all hired a week ago and told to get to work.
As for the Robins - are we surprised? Hasn't this been the joke for years? He's been taking damaged young people and giving them a purpose for YEARS - is it all that far fetched to believe he's doing it intentionally? Are their lives not better - and aren't they better people - for having been trained by Bruce?
I'd wait on the calls of "haphazard" - they planned this out months ago - and "of back-firing" - because DC hasn't lost sales due to this yet.
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Posted: 09-Aug-2011 at 6:19pm |
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So it looks like DC doing this so quickly and haphazardly is back firing in many areas on them. Already there are a ton of creative team changes when it comes to artists, which might affect certain books sales as we are in the time where there are equal amount of those that get a book for the writer as those that get them for the artist. The latest casualty of the late bug is Action Comics which has a fill in artist already for issue #2 which was already solicited with Rags drawing but now it is Brent Anderson.
Also it was revealed that how Batman has so many Robins is that...being Robin is an intern position. So instead of it being that he took these youths in because they were hurting and such like him or that they used great detective skills to find him like Tim...he cruises around trying to find young men to be his interns? That is...odd.
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Posted: 31-Jul-2011 at 3:05pm |
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Moved this to the Flashpoint thread as its more appropriate there
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That is the funny part. They are looking for fresh new takes that will speak to the kids of today and then went and gave the books back to people that have been writing for them for years or old school talent that hasn't been part of the big two in years lol. Cornell is newer, but DnA are not so much as they have worked at the two companies off and on since the 90's where they did Legion and Resurrection Man stuff for DC before. It'd be like saying you want fresh and new and hiring Claremont :p. It will be interesting to see if they can make things 'fresh & new' and not fall back into trappings. Cause according to DiDio they have 5 years of this planned out now and there will be no events for quite some time. Many are skeptical that will last, and sadly I agree cause Marvel has a big X-Event and Marvel Universe event planned for next year they've been hinting at and when money rolls in for that I'm sure DC is gonna have to think of something cause by then the titles won't be so 'fresh' anymore as they'll be getting close to double digit numbers.
Someone should tell them they need to jump on the Handbook bandwagon. Marvel has made money off them. Even the Walking Dead now has one. Invincible has one too I think. Powers got one too. Be the perfect way for us to see the history of the new DCU without them having to show it all in the books since they are against that idea.
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Posted: 27-Jul-2011 at 10:18pm |
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Interesting that this is a supposed move to a fresh new DC and they're using so many older talent...I mean it's not a complaint but Lobdell is the former X-Men guy, same with Nicieza. Cornell and DnA are "newer" but I mean they really stuck with some older stuff, I guess I would have expected more out there talent or fresh faces.
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