Huge DC Announcement

That is so true Crute lol. Wolverine pretty much just walks into every blast and shot now, even though they've gone on record within stories him referring to the fact that even though he heals every blow and cut and such hurts like hell. The factor doesn't dull the initial pain. So he's like a masochist now or something lol. But yeah, Superman's problems are mostly fixed with his huge array of powers that either grow or shrink a bit given the writer. Hell the man had a super powered brain at one point in the Golden Age.

So now at the new 52 panel from today...things like Superman's Death and Coast City destruction and Rebirth all happened. So all this stuff happened but like Spider-Man (but on a bigger scale) we'er just supposed to assume that certain things were altered. The only problem with that is that the TPB's of these stories still have the old version. So in this new world Doomsday still killed Supes but he wasn't the Supes from that TPB he was this new more Kryptonian Superman who wasn't married to Lois or even dating her or anything...so then would she really have been crying over him like that? Since they seem to be acting like there isn't anything between Lois and Superman till recent times. What a clusterf*** lol.

Rebirth and such is funny cause that means that Earth has had all six lanterns from Sinstero to Abin Sur to Hal Jordan to John Stewart and Guy Gardner and Kyle Rayner....all within around a five year period. That's a lot of stuff to shove into five years lol.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33479

Justice League Panel

they were friends who often helped each other with stuff, but they were in adjoining sectors.

DC: We Quit Trying

This why there shouldn't have been a reboot in the first place. Just new #1s that explain the current staus quo to new readers & a handful of Ultimate titles.

No, new JLA and Superman origins should be in Ultimate books not core continuity. Waid already wrote a great retcon origin mini for JLA and there are 3 post-Crisis Superman origins already floating around. Just reprint the trades of those stories. This is just hubris from Johns and Morrison.

Todd's got an interesting take on all this. I suppose it's colored by the fact that he's part of DC's 2nd biggest competitor, but I tend to agree with his take. I'd recommend sticking with this transcript as Todd has a very bizarre way of talking. Most Image employees have their own Todd McFarlane impersonation they work on because of it.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33485

I dunno, I think Macfarlane's points work fine in regards to the COMIC industry, but that isn't who DC is trying to get the attention of here with this relaunch. Because here's the thing: DC knows that people are going to buy their books. They're DC.

But what DC is trying to accomplish here is to get the attention of EVERYONE ELSE. Announcing a handful of books like Superman or Batman might get the media's attention, but Mainstream America doesn't give a crap about the Flash or Aquaman or the Blackhawks or Birds of Prey. Announcings these books in spurts wouldn't accomplish anything, especially once people know about Superman and Batman - the only two properties that Mainstream cares about. He mentions about holding off on Action or Detective, but really, I don't know ANY non-comic fan who knows those books exist. My gf reads comics and she has no idea what those are - much less how they fit into the "bigger scheme" of Batman/Superman.

I think the big 52 title announcement is a good idea - it gives a clean start to everything, makes one easily rememberable jumping on point, and has a wide variety to choose from.

Besides, who the hell is going to buy all 52? He makes it sound like it's required.

Hmm I suppose DiDio's explanation about Batman having been around longer but just not public known works, just a doesn't fit into their claims that this will be set in more modern times and not seem "golden age" like which many of their comics did even in more modern times. Cause honestly I doubt a grown man in a bat suit could run around nowadays and be just an urban myth or secret lol. That s**t would be on youtube and the news in the blink of an eye if someone blabbed to being taken down by him. Also no one wondered who the heck was taking down these insane people like Joker and Two-FAce all those years before Superman? Out of sight out of mind? lol. The gaps in their continuity and logic aren't really infuriating to me as they are to others it's just hilarious and eye rolling that they can't see it themselves or just don't care enough to go balls out with a full reboot.

I agree going all at once is the best thing to do for what they want to accomplish, this chasing of the mythical new reader. The only downside I forsee for them is if after all the media attention wears off will people actually stick around. Cause like Marvel starting a new series to come out when a character's movie comes out. People are enticed to check out during the time of the movie and maybe a few more issues but, the sales never seem to really stick. Even if things are digital I don't know if that many people that aren't comic fans will actually stick around. Which is funny since non comic fans seem to love comic movies, but not the source material. Opposed to a Harry Potter or Twilight where they devour both. Comics are still seen as "nerdy". I know people that still think that all comic fans are overweight glasses wearing people that live in their mothers basements. The longevity of stereotypes in action.

Lol. Someone needs to tell DC they make a pill for that, so you won't blow it all in one go and be done.

Please explain to me how launching 52 #1 comic books in the same damn month in an effort to encourage new readership isn't flooding. Each and every one of these issues is a marketing gimmick designed to pull new cash in. They are going to cannibalize each other. Do you really think one of your hypothetical new readers is going to grab anything other Batman or Superman's core titles? If by "new reader" you mean "existing comic book purchaser who hasn't collected DC in the past", I'll give you that. But I'm betting John Doe doesn't yellow page his LCS to track down a slew of comics at $4 a clip because of this. I'm not sure anything done in a direct market model is going to grab actual new readers, unless every last person buying those useless tablets is going to drop cake on online comics. I seriously doubt this is the case.

Did everyone get the free "DC Comics: The New 52" Guide at their LCS today?

I'm not a DC fan at all but I picked it up (because it was free) and I gotta say, the marketing might be working on me. I'm a lot more inclined to pick up JL #1, GL #1, and watch out for titles like Wonder Woman, Teen Titans, and Legion of Superheroes.

And it's cool to see Fabian Nicieza, Scott Lobdell, Judd Winick, DnA, and Paul Cornell getting so much work over there. I wanna see what they're up to.

That is the funny part. They are looking for fresh new takes that will speak to the kids of today and then went and gave the books back to people that have been writing for them for years or old school talent that hasn't been part of the big two in years lol. Cornell is newer, but DnA are not so much as they have worked at the two companies off and on since the 90's where they did Legion and Resurrection Man stuff for DC before. It'd be like saying you want fresh and new and hiring Claremont :p. It will be interesting to see if they can make things 'fresh & new' and not fall back into trappings. Cause according to DiDio they have 5 years of this planned out now and there will be no events for quite some time. Many are skeptical that will last, and sadly I agree cause Marvel has a big X-Event and Marvel Universe event planned for next year they've been hinting at and when money rolls in for that I'm sure DC is gonna have to think of something cause by then the titles won't be so 'fresh' anymore as they'll be getting close to double digit numbers.

Someone should tell them they need to jump on the Handbook bandwagon. Marvel has made money off them. Even the Walking Dead now has one. Invincible has one too I think. Powers got one too. Be the perfect way for us to see the history of the new DCU without them having to show it all in the books since they are against that idea.