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Kipe
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Topic: Is THOIN still happening? Posted: 28-Aug-2011 at 9:37pm |
I've noticed that there haven't been any updates for THOIN in a very long time. I know this has deterred me from writing anyting because THOIN is the only place I would try to post it. I don't know if this is because Josh/Justin have just been really busy with real life or if because nobody has actually been submitting any work. I don't know if it's a combination of the two or other factors as well.
Regardless of whatever the cause is, is there anyting I can do to help?
Edit: X-Treme, your inbox is full and I can't pm you. 
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Posted: 29-Aug-2011 at 2:11am |
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Not sure what is up with things, but I know that quite a few (a decent sized group) writers currently do writing at some of the other sites that advertise their fic here like Marvel Omega and Marvel Anthology and others. While I understand real life stuff, I just decided myself to let my stuff here go because it gets put up so infrequently that you really can't plan much or do much as you don't know when it will go up. Justin writes at Marvel Omega now as well, and I know he shelved the All Star Universe awhile back as the interest from others waned. X-Treme/Josh I don't know. Haven't talked to him much in the last like six or more months. Has a new job somewhere I think. Sadly THOI might have passed on at this point, unless their is a surge to get some new editors to help them out and a surge of stuff being turned in.
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Posted: 29-Aug-2011 at 2:23am |
I have some ideas for some one-shots I'd like to do. I wouldn't want to write them and have no place to put them up though.
If somebody was willing to show me how everything works, I would be willing to be an assistant editor or help with updates.
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Posted: 29-Aug-2011 at 3:26am |
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The problem with sites like Marvel Omega and Marvel Anthology is they're restrictive. If you want to write a series that fits into their continuity, and you're willing to make changes because certain characters are being used by other writers then you're all good. However, if you want to write your own X-men series that won;t fit on any of the "continuity" fan fic sites then THOIN is really your only hope.
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Posted: 29-Aug-2011 at 3:30am |
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I agree. I was talking to Polaris (the poster, obv) and I think we have a pretty interesting idea for a fanfic, as well as my own stuff that is currently up (although I must admit that I got a little side-tracked with Outsiders and have written a few 'further down the line' pieces rather than catching up to that point :-/). As well as Justin and Scott, Redstrings is kind of MIA, and JanO and Mackers have, I'm guessing, given up for the foreseeable due to real life stuff.
I'd love to see the site revived, and whilst I could probably only committ to one update a month, I'd be willing to help with the editing/posting side of things too.
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Posted: 29-Aug-2011 at 4:32am |
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THOI is a great place when it comes to doing your own thing, when you have stories to tell that don't fit into the the Marvel Omega's and such of the fan fiction world. I love writing for those sites and being part of a community as it is a great feeling working on things with others and such much like when we had universes like X-M and All Start and such going here. It would be nice though to have a regular place here to get back to some solo work and such that can't be done elsewhere. I know I still have ideas for the Omniverse and other side things.
What would really help THOI is to have some system in place for some sort of at least semi regular to regular update. Once a year or so really kills the momentum that people have in their writing and causes them to go missing. Perhaps getting some more of us involved in the process of editing titles (proofreading, coding, etc) would help so that they can easily then be put on site by someone if Justin and Josh are too busy or such to do it at this point. Which is more than understandable, they've been doing it for years and are bound to get burned out or have real life over it.
I know I'd love to see THOI back up and going as its where I started and I have wanted to give my Intolerance universe a jump start as I was enjoying writing in that time period of the X-Men. Getting some ultimate style universe in the vein of All Star up and going would be something I'd love to do as well, as well as jump start Omniverse to get some stuff up there alongside Outsiders.
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Posted: 29-Aug-2011 at 6:02pm |
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I haven't junked my Latest Fan-fic project, just sidelined it.
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Posted: 29-Aug-2011 at 7:17pm |
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I would LOVE to write more of my own fics, but I'm just too focused on making my comics. >.< I do a few odd projects here and there - an Agent 13 mini for Altered Visions and Slipstream for Marvel Omega - but I just can't muster up the energy to sit down and crank out fanfic like I used to.
I wouldn't mind seeing some new stuff here though - especially UncannyScott's Intolerance uni, I really liked the original burst of stuff from there before it disappeared.
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Posted: 29-Aug-2011 at 10:29pm |
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What Scott said about my universe is true, I've put All-Star on the shelf in favor of writing for Marvel Omega. I'd say a year ago I started getting burnt out myself and it essentially made it difficult for me to write anything. Also since there was nothing coming in for me to edit I also started losing interest. So a couple months ago I decided to just take all my All-Star Reborn plans for Arana and just take them to MO which I already had started writing Arana for a year ago.
I'd like to see THOIN be revived. It's been my fanfiction home since 2005 and I'd hate to let it go. Of course to revive I think we'll need more editors, which its really easy to do now. No coding required. You just need to know how read. If we can get a plan together and enough writer's rolling we could get something moving.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 1:29am |
One suggestion I'd like to make is renaming the General Section. It just sounds so...general and meh. How about the Idependent Section or the Indepenent Imprint?
If there isn't any coding involved, that's great. I do have experience as an Editor (section editor, managing editor, and co Editor-in-Chief of my college newspaper) so again I would be wiling to be an assistant or co-editor. I'm also unemployed at the moment and have time on my hands.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 2:38am |
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I'd love for things to revive. You guys get sending, I'll start updating. I literally CANNOT update because I have NOTHING to update, haha. If you guys send me stories, I'll edit them on my bus/train ride to work. It can keep me entertained.
Help would also be good, but again it isn't that I need it's that I have no stories to update. But hopefully once they start pouring in, I'll definitely need help. When I'm not doing crazy hours at work, I do like to have a life, so dividing the updates will be a big help!
I also have to start working on advertising for the site. Just not sure where to advertise and since I have no skill in making neat little banners, I'm not sure how to go about making the advertisement.
What we really need is a new pool of active writers. Mackers is off being a doctor, if we start up again I'll be doing more updating than writing because of my job. JanO is MIA, as is some other active writers. It's why advertising is important. We need to get new people to mix with the veterans.
So yeah, assist editors are more than welcome(and needed honestly). But we need writers first. The more writers we have, the easier it is to keep consistent updates.
Also, I'm going to be creating a new e-mail address. My aol one is spammed to the brim, even though I never use it. So I'm creating a g-mail one.
XtremeCota@gmail.com.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 2:45am |
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Lol, I'm unemployed myself right now (have been for four years) so I have tons of free time so I'd be more than willing to step up and become an editor and help get this going. Some new editing blood might really help get things jumping with X-treme away for a in depth job and such. I would love to see this place hopping once again the way it should be.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 3:58am |
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Cool, I mean so far everyone has offered, which is good, haha! But I think right now we should pool our thoughts into advertising. We don't need editors, if we don't have writers! I'm pretty not caught up with the world of fan fiction or really other X-Men/Marvel/Comic boards...So if anyone can tell me some other sites they post at or write for, that would be a good start.
Also anyone skilled in the way of pretty banners?
Also Kipe I love your idea about renaming the General Section. Which I guess means we should rename the family section.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 4:07am |
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Oh, Xtreme... You of course realise that it's now my goal to have the next XXTNC, Haven and Outsiders in your inbox by the end of next week now, right?
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 4:39am |
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Well advertising will help, but I do think that some help is needed for the two editors as if you are both away and busy the site no updates happen and then people stop writing cause there are no updates. That is not saying anything bad at all about you guys or such as real life always comes first. Just might help to have more than two that way if you are both gone there can still be updates and we don't go months without updates if life gets really busy. The chances of say three or four editors all being super busy at once is less than two both being busy with life. As with like the RPG that I run, advertising only gets you so far if you don't have content coming out to then entice the people to give your place a chance.
As for places to advertise, there are not a lot really. You can do at Marvel Omega and Marvel Anthology and JLU 2001 and DC Anthology and a few others. Probably won't catch too many new writers from there as most like the writing in a shared universe over just doing their own thing but might snag a few. Again, like RPG's online its hard to get new people sometimes because people don't want to spread themselves thin between a number of places so they just stick to what they know. But all those sites will for sure let you advertise stuff there as they do it for one another quite often.
I'm pretty goodish to decent in Photoshop at banners and such like I do for my X-Men RPG so I could do some for the series and sections and such.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 5:37am |
Originally posted by das_boot
Oh, Xtreme... You of course realise that it's now my goal to have the next XXTNC, Haven and Outsiders in your inbox by the end of next week now, right? |
Best goal ever :) @Uncanny: True, I guess get content up again and then start advertising. Again though, that's up the writers too. Like I said, I haven't been updating because we haven't gotten any stories. If I have stories, I update. So writers...start writing :-p. Again we don't need three editors to edit three stories a month. I might be busy, but I'm not THAT busy. But hey if we can get a steady flow of stories again from the writers we have, I'm all for it!! But back to advertising, which I think is a major thing. We can advertise it as a reboot/rebirth of the Fan fiction site. Unlike say an X-Men RPG or other fan fiction sites, we get to put a unique spin on our site because we're a sister site of the Mega awesome and mega popular UncannyXMen.net. We know for a fact comic writers check out UXN. We know artists do and even the people who make the Marvel Handbooks and editors, etc. I think our best place for advertising would be forums; either writing
forums or comic forums. Yeah we can throw an ad up on other fan fiction
sites but I don't think we'll get much bit.
Maybe, since we'll soon have more editors, we can also try and do more special things like spotlight months(remember the Magneto one?), bring back things like the Fan Fiction awards, and have other neat things which can attract people and make them stick around. I think things like that would be WAY easier with other editors involved. And I think making our presence known again on UXN wouldn't hurt. So I guess right now we should concentrate on getting an update out again. Also, just a note to all wanting to be editors. You'll not only have to proofread and editor the stories you'll receive, you'll have to REVIEW/FEEDBACK them too! That will be my one requirement for an editor. I think feedback is important and it creates a sense of community. I don't know about you, but I don't just stick around here just because I like writing. I'm here because I like you crazy people and I love reading your stories, discussing them with you and hearing feedback on my own stories. Anyway, I have to leave for work in like six hours so I should be sleeping..But yeah I'm happy to see people are interested in getting THOIN back. I am too. I actually have an issue of COTA written from MONTHS ago, so that's one story down! I guess my own stories will need their own editor considering they're about the size of five stories put together ;-). To be fair though, I doubt I'll be doing much writing! Just more time to edit :).
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 5:58am |
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Oh yeah other things will definitely be easier with more editors around. Also having other editors means that say a monthly update of the site doesn't fall just on your shoulders or just Justin. It can be spread around. Editor A and B handle maybe a beginning and end update this month, then C and D the next and so. Or have someone handle a certain area like just the Genearl, and then someone on Family, etc. Just to lighten the loads so that no one person is doing all the work or feels bogged down. Writers and editors and the stories and updating is like the chicken and the egg. If either one vanishes the other does it's that odd thing lol.
Forums would be the best place to advertise yep, that way we can get it out there. Hopefully though the pros aren't coming too much otherwise they might steal our ideas :p
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 10:49am |
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I would love to see THOIN going again. I miss reading some of the series on there.
I would also love to try writing again, maybe something smaller in scope so I can have time for it, but I miss it. At any rate I am happy to read/edit.
I have been batting an idea around for a story but I will see how things go. Real life is way too real sometimes! :p
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Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 4:40pm |
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Oh and Grief if you were enjoying the Intolerance stuff you'll be glad to know that I'm bringing it back. I just plotted out the direction for the universe this morning and the revamping of the titles that is to come. Going to give X-Factor a fresh start over, a new volume of Uncanny, and another title to go along side it as well as some minis dealing with the other hero teams and who steps up to take their place after the whole Onslaught thing.
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Posted: 01-Sep-2011 at 2:35am |
Who was involved in THOIN's web design? Do we have anybody who can do that stuff? After getting some new material in/updates going I think it would be wise for us to think of ways make THOIN more user-friendly and visually appealing.
I've only really ever checked out Marvel Omega and Marvel Anthology, so I'm not as versed on fanfiction sites as some of you, but I think if/when the Omniverse got up and going that having an imprint like that could give us a competitive edge.
I'm working on a one-shot now (don't want to be spoilery, but it's Vertigo) that might evolve into a trilogy of one-shots.
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Oh yeah speaking of the Omniverse, there are still a lot of characters and room left if people want to pitch a title to me and add onto the universe. Right now its just me and Das_Boot with his Outsiders and my soon to come Ultimates. So if you want to get in on some of this just let me know.
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Yeah, and my Outsiders, Outsiders though they might be, are very lonely...
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As much as it kills me to say it, X-M is pretty god damn dead, I still write stuff for it occasionally when the mood takes me and I'm pretty much plotted until such a time where I would actually consider the universe ended but I haven't released an issue in what'll be like two years in January.
One day I might actually post up what I actually intended to (the entire plotted saga was pretty damn epic and ended up tying up The Twelve Saga for god knows what reason as well as detailing how Apocalypse came into being and pretty much solved all of my dangling plotlines) and as much as I enjoy writing it, more for myself than anything else, I doubt I'll ever release another issue, well, I might put up the last issue of the current arc i was in the middle of, just because it annoys me that i trailed off mid-arc. hah.
To be honest, I'm actually plotting something for the GS atm, it's coming along slowly, but coming along, and expect to see a piece of work by moi in the near future (I say this, but I'm fairly unreliable).
I've missed THOIN, it's always been such a supportive group of writers, unfortunately I've allowed RL to get in the way for the last two years as wellas focusing on my original writing but I feel the time is right to get back into fanficing, I always enjoy it because it soothes my inner fanboy.
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You also have the last two unreleased issues of my Infection series as well Red Strings, but I'm not bitter.
*cough cough I'mbitter cough cough*
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Posted: 04-Sep-2011 at 12:56pm |
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Is this just the return of the General Section?
If I remember correctly THOIN once thrived best when it had the community working together to make stories, which is pretty much the appeal of the Omega/Anthology sites, using the banners of 617/X-M/AllStar. So perhaps as a community it would be best to work to your strengths of plotting a new headlining universe. It'd be fresh so in the beginning it'd seem like the general section but eventually it would become more cohesive etc.
Just a thought.
GMM.
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