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    Posted: 11-Sep-2011 at 2:02am
The specific purpose of this thread will be to, obviously, give delayed feedback. Have you read a story but aren't sure what update thread the story appeared in? Not a problem. You can just post your feedback here and specify the issue it is in response to. This way, even if it is an old story whose update thread might be several pages back in the forum thread listing, you can still post your feedback here and hopefully the writer will see it and respond to it.
 
To start off with, I've read
 
Outsiders #1 by Lead Pear (or if you're a forum regular, Das Boot a.k.a. BootyBoy)
 
I'm going to give the negative first and then finish it with the positive. Don't worry, the positive outways the negative.
 

Negatives.

 

Changing back and forth between past tense and present tense in the narratives, sometimes even within one sentence. It happened all throughout the issue.

 

This was one glaring error that struck me:

and anyone who thinks they’d be able to take advantage of Nick Fury needs their head examining.”

Should use past tense, unless it was just a mistake on Clint’s part.

 

Sometimes you use the same word more than once in a sentence, like “personally” in Clint’s narration. That’s not so bothersome as I actually don’t expect Clint to have that awesome of a vocabulary. Beast using “nickname” twice in the same sentence when he could’ve done without bothered me though, mostly because you were so spot on with his narration/dialogue. It was just a strangely constructed sentence (especially for the last sentence of the section) to me. Again, you’re using first person narratives so it wouldn’t make sense for everybody’s to be perfectly constructed and grammatically correct but I expect better out of Hank.

 

Positives.

Spot-on with Fury. Great description of physical characteristics.  Interesting to see how Clint views him.

 

Thank you, thank you, for not hyperbolizing Rogue’s accent in her narration. I particularly enjoy seeing things from her view, but if her accent was in the narration and dialogue I would’ve found it unreadable lol.

 

I feel like your line-up is WAY Marvel heavy, but I’m incredibly excited by the prospect of interactions between Wanda and Rogue. It just screams “awesomesauce character interactions.” They have so much in common yet are so different.

 

After looking up  the non-Marvel characters (whom I’d never encountered before) I realized they were all Outsiders in the DCU. Still, in the future, it would be awesome if you would add a character (even a supporting one) that originates from a universe besides the main two. Could you imagine Beast and Indigo trying to care for a young Jenny Quantum? Lol. Well, I guess she’s technically DC now. Hmmmmm.

 

It’s interesting how differently people view Clint within their own narratives than Clint seems to view himself within his. He comes across as far more knavishly charming in the view of others. I think he likes to think of himself as more of a loner asshole.

 

I wasn’t sure if I was going to like Rex, but this line ended up being my favorite in the entire issue. ”… I grabbed the orb, and I felt this massive surge of pain rock through my body, kind of like licking a 9-volt battery. Only instead of licking it, I had been doused in water and thrown onto it. And instead of a 9-volt battery, it was a power-station.” . I feel like this character might be the one you (as a person) speak through the most. He has your sense of humor.

 

It’s a very eclectic cast. I can see how each character could possibly have something to learn from/teach to the other characters. Wanda/Rogue, Indigo/Katana, Indigo/Rex, Hank/Rex. Hank/Clint.

 

I felt you were concise in the action scene. I didn’t have much trouble visualizing what was taking place. So did Clint set the whole thing up? It was an interesting way to throw some action into an otherwise mostly set-up/exposition issue.

 
 
Edit: Oh yeah, I wanted to point out that something about Katana really reminds me of Mazikeen from Lucifer/Sandman. The cold, quiet warrior archetype. I'm really interested in what her interactions with Indigo will be like.


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Woot, thanks for this thread Kipe! Great idea!

And yes Outsiders is awesome isn't it? Not sure if you ever read it, but you also check out Daniel's(das_boot/lead pear's) Xtreme X-Men: The New Class. If you like awesomesauce character interaction, that whole cast has it!

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  Quote das_boot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Sep-2011 at 11:54am
Thanks for the feedback! You're totally right about the negatives, I found it really difficult to write this at first, as it was my first attempt at writing in the first person, so I appreciate the pointers as something to work on :).

Glad you liked the mix of characters, and I'm certainly going to try and add a few different characters from various different parts of the DC universe, be it as villains or as guest stars/new team members... And with Clint, I really wanted to have him with the vibe that whilst he still sees himself as a former villian, the rest of the team he's collected generally have the opinion of 'well, yeah, but that was years ago... dude, we're over it' kind of thing... Katana and Mazikeen... I like that comparison, and now that you mention it, you're not a million miles off, although it certainly wasn't intentional! Either way, I'm taking that as a massive compliment! Rex does have a lot of my odd sense of humour, and I intend on keeping him that way because I think that for the most part, it's quite a dark/serious team, and while that's not a bad thing, per se, as a writer I don't think I can do straight-up dark without a little bit of humour to counter-balance it!

I'm 100% with you on the Rogue dialogue/internal narration thing. There's no way I would ever use the "Ah" and general Southern accent in an internal narration, because I'm not 100% sure that ANYONE thinks in a regional dialect and you're right, it would have been incredibly jarring to read.

Thanks again for the feedback, Kipe, and don't worry, number three is on the way soon :)


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