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Topic: Fantomex: Regeneration & detecting misdirection Posted: 25-Sep-2011 at 6:57pm |
Question 1: Does Fantomex have a regenerative healing factor when placed in water? Can anyone reference the issue(s) where he does this?
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In Uncanny X-force #6, Psylocke picks up an "echo reverberating my thoughts back to me" and Fantomex says "weirdness is afoot." Is this echo from the Deathlok Fantomex's misdirection? Does this mean that Psylocke can sense the misdirection of Fantomex as a kind of echo? Or is this from the other Deathloks or the Deathlok mind?
Edited by Cluster - 25-Sep-2011 at 7:24pm
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Question 2 - Fantomex has telepathy blocking plates that were causing the reverberation/feedback that Psylocke felt
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Posted: 26-Sep-2011 at 6:02am |
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What is the nature of this 'misdirection' power? Is it similar with Mastermind's power?
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"Changing the status quo" just means altering the ranks of which C and D list characters will be pencilled into the background - Ciel
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Posted: 29-Sep-2011 at 8:31am |
Leo: Misdirection is more hypnosis suggestion than Mastermind's illusion casting
well me think'eth
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Posted: 29-Sep-2011 at 12:34pm |
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Caenman is right. Fantomex's misdirecting power is more like a hypnotic command ("Look the other way" and "you're in love with her" etc).
As for the healing... Most of the products of the weapon program have some measure of healing talent, whether it's longevity, resistance to illness or a healing factor like Wolverine's. I don't think it's been expressly stated, but considering Fantomex has been shown to operate on himself, and be well enough to walk around and fight mere moments after being caught in an explosion or being stabbed, I would say that at best he has a healing factor, and at the very least has some kind of ability to suppress pain.
I don't think he has to be in water to heal, I think he's just been shown as sleeping in a sensory deprivation booth.
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Posted: 30-Sep-2011 at 7:47am |
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^ Ah, okay. Thanks guys!
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"Changing the status quo" just means altering the ranks of which C and D list characters will be pencilled into the background - Ciel
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Posted: 30-Sep-2011 at 5:07pm |
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Thanks for the replies.
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Posted: 23-Nov-2011 at 7:22pm |
An additional update: In Fear Itself Uncanny X-Force #2 Fantomex tells Psylocke "that bomb will go off any second and unlike the rest of us you don't have a healing factor!"
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After reading UXF #1, have a couple of questions about Fantomex's abilities and the character bio here is kinda scarce.
Using what the bio states:
"intuitively read the body language of others" - Would this ability be along the same lines as Cassandra Cain's ability to 'read' people during a fight? Or does it make him more of human lie detector?
"misdirection power can
implant people with ideas and illusions" - well, the previous replies said this power is more like hypnosis, so this description is inaccurate? Are there any limits to this ability? Could he cause someone to hurt themselves intentionally for example?
"manifest his primary nervous
system externally as E.V.A." - What exactly does this mean? I see where he seems to manifest it as a ship of some kind, but what are EVA's capabilities?
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Posted: 15-Jan-2013 at 1:30am |
-Little from column A, little from column B. Fantomex can observe things like tone, stance, and posture to interpret what someone's true feelings or intentions are. Did you read New Mutants during Necrosha, where Cypher gave sub-titles to what people said for what they really meant? It's a bit like that. He could also recognize shape-shifters like Mystique thanks to their body language, regardless of what their bodies actually looked like at the moment. -Misdirected people don't lose consciousness or go into a trance, so in that way its not like hypnosis. Misdirection is MOSTLY used as illusions, such as causing an opponent to attack their friends because they see Fantomex instead of their allies. Fantomex can also plant unquestionable ideas in people's heads, though. If he runs into guards while burglarizing a museum, he can tell them he's a building inspector and they'll actually buy it, despite his S&M super-hero costume. He told War he was in love with Psylocke and, as War said, "it instantly became true." -EVA is a flying saucer Fantomex can literally cough up on command. At her smallest she can be held between two fingers, or grow large enough for at least a half-dozen passengers. She is composed of nano-morphing materials and can assume various features like VTOL, space flight, video screens, communications array, wide-spectrum scanners, entrance ramps, landing struts, seating for at least five, etc. She has her own consciousness, letting her act without Fantomex's direct commands and even contradict his orders if she chooses. EVA is literally Fantomex's nervous system. When she is shrunk down and inside him, he has your standard sense of touch and pain. When EVA is out flying about, however, Fantomex is basically immune to pain or adverse sensations, since his nerves and pain receptors are no longer inside his body. He can receive sympathetic pain from EVA if she is hurt, however, but she has regenerative properties that let her quickly recover. If EVA is somehow overcome and disabled, Fantomex does has a secondary, back-up nervous system in his body that he can activate as necessary. It is less evolved than EVA -- he mentioned that with the secondary nervous system he cannot see color, for instance.
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Posted: 24-Jan-2013 at 8:18pm |
Originally posted by Monolith
-EVA is a flying saucer Fantomex can literally cough up on command. At her smallest she can be held between two fingers, or grow large enough for at least a half-dozen passengers. She is composed of nano-morphing materials and can assume various features like VTOL, space flight, video screens, communications array, wide-spectrum scanners, entrance ramps, landing struts, seating for at least five, etc. She has her own consciousness, letting her act without Fantomex's direct commands and even contradict his orders if she chooses. EVA is literally Fantomex's nervous system. When she is shrunk down and inside him, he has your standard sense of touch and pain. When EVA is out flying about, however, Fantomex is basically immune to pain or adverse sensations, since his nerves and pain receptors are no longer inside his body. He can receive sympathetic pain from EVA if she is hurt, however, but she has regenerative properties that let her quickly recover. If EVA is somehow overcome and disabled, Fantomex does has a secondary, back-up nervous system in his body that he can activate as necessary. It is less evolved than EVA -- he mentioned that with the secondary nervous system he cannot see color, for instance. |
Thanks for the clarifications. But EVA has her own consciousness? Do you mean a full sentience or a limited AI? Or this more of a symbiotic relationship?
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Posted: 24-Jan-2013 at 8:58pm |
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EVA is about as autonomous as you can get. Like I said before, she can speak and act without Fantomex's direction or permission, argue with him, even ignore his commands. She has survived his death in both present and future timelines, becoming an independent humanoid entity. I'd say she's at least as separate and distinct as one of Madrox's dupes. I think her independence will be tested in UXFO too, since there appears to be still just one EVA for three Weapon XIIIs: Fantomex, Cluster, and Jean-Philippe. Fantomex and Cluster appear to be on the same side, but what if they want EVA to do one thing and Jean-Philippe says something else?
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Posted: 27-Feb-2013 at 11:27pm |
Hi Monolith! I think figured out how Fantomex regenerates. I looked up nanites and found some interesting information on their regenerative properties. Here's an exert from the wikipedia article on nanorobotics: "Another useful application of nanorobots is assisting in the repair of tissue cells alongside white blood cells.[61] The recruitment of inflammatory cells or white blood cells (which include neutrophils, lymphocytes, monocytes and mast cells) to the affected area is the first response of tissues to injury.[62] Because of their small size nanorobots could attach themselves to the surface of recruited white cells, to squeeze their way out through the walls of blood vessels and arrive at the injury site, where they can assist in the tissue repair process. Certain substances could possibly be utilized to accelerate the recovery.
The science behind this mechanism is quite complex. Passage of cells across the blood endothelium, a process known as transmigration, is a mechanism involving engagement of cell surface receptors to adhesion molecules, active force exertion and dilation of the vessel walls and physical deformation of the migrating cells. By attaching themselves to migrating inflammatory cells, the robots can in effect “hitch a ride” across the blood vessels, bypassing the need for a complex transmigration mechanism of their own."
I also read something online about 'nanoids.' They are nanites that analyze and mimic biological structures such as bone and tissue. I'm not sure if these are real or fiction.
Edited by Cluster - 28-Feb-2013 at 7:56pm
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